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And I've changed my view on Freeman extension. I thought he would struggle to be worth the later years of his deal. He still might, but this will play if he keeps it up.
 
yeezus said:
Uh, yeah, I'm not looking to the media to hold athletes accountable for having some off games. If sports media weren't the biggest joke next to fox news, maybe I would.
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Its not really about the media holding them accountable, its about them showing that accountability to their teammates. If he refuses to answer questions when he bombs - some of his teammates are left answering those questions, his catcher, his manager, his defense -- he does *need* to talk to the media when things go wrong. Its part of the job and its part of being a professional. He's still young, he'll learn.
 
Preacher said:
Its not really about the media holding them accountable, its about them showing that accountability to their teammates. If he refuses to answer questions when he bombs - some of his teammates are left answering those questions, his catcher, his manager, his defense -- he does *need* to talk to the media when things go wrong. Its part of the job and its part of being a professional. He's still young, he'll learn.
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I just don't think most players care all that much about the media. What questions are going to be asked of him that, since he didn't answer, will now be asked to his catcher or manager? It's not like they'll only talk to the guy who bombs; they're probably still going to go to numerous players to get their takes and pointless, cliched quotes. Not talking to the media is only a big deal for the joke that is sports media and the "reporters" who get upset about it.

"So what happened out there, Viz?"
"How are you feeling tonight, Arodys?"
"Did you feel you made your pitch, or not?"
"Take me through this at-bat."

Idk, I don't see value in that BS and if a frustrated player doesn't feel like dealing with the lame media after a game, I couldn't care less, personally.
 
yeezus said:
I just don't think most players care all that much about the media. What questions are going to be asked of him that, since he didn't answer, will now be asked to his catcher or manager? It's not like they'll only talk to the guy who bombs; they're probably still going to go to numerous players to get their takes and pointless, cliched quotes. Not talking to the media is only a big deal for the joke that is sports media and the "reporters" who get upset about it.

"So what happened out there, Viz?"
"How are you feeling tonight, Arodys?"
"Did you feel you made your pitch, or not?"
"Take me through this at-bat."

Idk, I don't see value in that BS and if a frustrated player doesn't feel like dealing with the lame media after a game, I couldn't care less, personally.
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I've heard catchers get frustrated when left to answer questions for pitchers who weren't man enough to own their mistakes after the game; again - its about being accountable. If you're going to be there and answer questions when its going well, you need to do it when its going poorly also.

The media has a job to do, as a ballplayer working with them is part of your responsibilities.
 
thewupk said:
Uggla extension was poor as well. I would say he dominated the trades. FA signings were piss poor. Which is something a mid market team can't have mistakes on.
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HINDSIGHT: This was nearly unanimously agreed upon at the time. If you say differently, I will call you out on it.
 
Media clauses are not allowed in baseball contracts. Unless the NFL has some stupid codicil, I know of no league that permits players to dodge media. Carlton did, but it was not in his contract.
 
rico43 said:
HINDSIGHT: This was nearly unanimously agreed upon at the time. If you say differently, I will call you out on it.
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Yeah I was in favor of it at the time because Uggla was a premier RH power bat that the Braves had been missing since Andruw's departure. Knowing what I know now I would not be in favor of any type of extension like that in the future. With the PED era over you are going to see more flame outs like Uggla once they get on the wrong side of 30. Just a cautionary tale that the Braves need to keep in mind whenever they dole out contracts. What they did with JT and Freeman is the way to go.
 
rico43 said:
Media clauses are not allowed in baseball contracts. Unless the NFL has some stupid codicil, I know of no league that permits players to dodge media. Carlton did, but it was not in his contract.
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I kinda figured a clause like that wouldn't be allowed in MLB contracts with how strong the MLBPA is.
 
People get so worked up over stupid stuff. He's suck right now and is frustrated; who cares who is wants to talk to? What does "holding him accountable" even mean?
 
gilesfan said:
People get so worked up over stupid stuff. He's suck right now and is frustrated; who cares who is wants to talk to? What does "holding him accountable" even mean?
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There's reason to believe he'll never learn to pitch well if he doesn't give nightly quotes to Mark "Basically a Less Courageous, Less Eloquent Hodor" Bowman.
 
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