We are assuming that Avilan, Walden, Carpenter, and Ayala do not give up any runs at all.
Kimbrel likely pitches the 8th if we're down by a run me thinks.
Kimbrel likely pitches the 8th if we're down by a run me thinks.
GDT: Braves @ Dodgers (NLDS Game 4, October 7, 2013)
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
All except the last three.
What are the chances you can get this or better than Garcia: 5 IP 3 Runs 3 Earned Runs
To be honest, my own expection from Medlen on three days rest and Garcia are about the same. I'm sort of neutral on this issue. Which makes me take exception to those claiming a compelling case one way or the other.
Or based off this series so far, Garcia : 5 IP, 5 runs, 3 earned.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I would guess 3 IP 6 runs 2 earned. Elliot and Wood had errors yesterday I'm guessing today it will be Gattis and CJ.
On a serious note I think Freddy does ok, today he'll have a short leash so if he starts struggling someone will come in.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Well if you are assuming the team makes errors behind Garcia that leads to unearned runs, is there a reason to think they will play better defense behind Medlen?
Probably not.
I'd still probably rather watch Medlen pitch. He didn't throw that many innings or pitches the other day anyways.
Like I said, I'm not gonna bash Fredi for going with Freddy because if Huddy or Beachy is not out for the rest of the season we're probably looking at a different scenario anyways.
NinersSBChamps
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I may or may not be able to post the lineups. My phone gets awful service inside, but I will try and take my lunch around 4:00 and I will check if they have been posted.
Lineup should be the same as it has been if we're trying to get maximum offense.
tululush
New member
Crap. I take full responsibility for the loss last night. Friday night at the game around the 4th inning I took my hat, flipped it inside out and wore it for the remainder of the game. They played excellent since I made the change. Vowed I'd wear it the same way all through game 3. Totally forgot and look what happened. Crap. Someone remind me to wear my rally cap tonight, please.
stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Maybe we taught him how to pitch again.
Joking, of course but he's been good with us, and we do have a pitching coach so maybe they were able to help him.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yup
Though I'll make a strong case for game 5 to start the game is put Gattis behind the plate and Bossman in CF. While we're taking a big hit losing Mac there, we massively improve our OF defense which really hurt us in game one costing us 2 runs minimum that normal defensive OF probably saves. Games when facing someone like Kershaw, defense is Magnified as is situational hitting. So having Mac off the bench may prove even more valuable. While he made solid contact against Kershaw in game one I'd take my defensive improving chances then bring Mac in later in the game as a PH for the pitcher/defensive replacement for Gattis. If we're in say the 7th and tied and there's a runner on second who would you want to call on more, Mac, or Reed?
There's of course a huge offensive risk to this strategy but given what our offense looked like on Thursday, I'll take my crack with the defensive first play.
This could be Garcia's last chance at a postseason start becuase chances are if we cut him, he's only going to go to a team desperate like Cubs or Twins or Miami.
Let's hope he's locked in.
Let's hope he's locked in.
stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Getting Hanley out would appear to be essential to our success tonight. He's 3-8 vs Freddy and 5-9 vs Medlen.
This isn't helping much, I know.
This isn't helping much, I know.
IBB Hanley every opportunity you can.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Problem is that right after him you have Adrian. So it's not like you get rest. I think we need to approach Hanley in a similar manner we approached Ryan Howard, heavy diet of breaking balls, preferably out of the zone. He kills fastballs, and he hits breaking balls well, but he smokes fastballs, we're more likely to contain him with breakingballs and hoping he chases a few bad pitches. He's the guy we have to focus all our attention on because keeping him off the bases makes life easier for handling the guys behind him.
Adrian other than the homerun and fisted single he hit, has looked somewhat human.
Hanley on the other hand... every swing he takes I cringe.
Hanley on the other hand... every swing he takes I cringe.
tululush
New member
That's the problem, with maximum offense we're getting killed defensively. Balls that should be caught in left are dropping. Weather that be bloops where Gattis is playing so deep, or he misplays a ball off the wall (see Hanley's triple last night). I just think we have to find a happy medium. Two out of the three games there have been runs scored and innings extended bc his lack of defense has hurt us. Literally every ball is finding him. I don't want to lose his bat or take Mac out since he's hit Nolasco hard but damn if we lose tonight bc an inning was extended or a ball wasn't caught I don't know if I can handle that.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I agree that Hanley is the biggest threat, but putting him on 100% of the time isn't the solution either. Now if there's a runner on second, I'd probably agree with you I wouldn't throw him a pitch withing 6 inches of the plate. I'd try to get him to chase ball one and 2 and if he doesn't then I'd put him on.
Right now the Dodgers have 4 guys who're killing it so far, Hanley, Puig, A-Gon, and Uribe. They're the guys we have to gameplan for they're the ones who hurt us the most. Crawford has done well, AJ Ellis has done well (though I believe he was the benefactor of our OF defense game one IIRC)
BTW this is how our hitters are doing for ****s and giggles in OPS
Gattis 1.083
Freeman .801
Simmons .750
Heyward .692
Johnson .667
Justin .580
Mac .250
Elliot .091
Elliot and Mac are also the only players not on the Reds in the NL to not have a hit. 2 other Braves don't have extra base hits (Gattis and CJ)
The dodgers have basically power drained the Braves so far, so it would be really nice to have a power surge tonight. We have a lot of guys walking, a lot of guys hitting for decent averages. But no one is hitting for power since we have only 1 homer and 3 doubles through 3 games. Same total that the Reds had in their elimination game.
bravesnumberone
Well-known member
If we must lose, I want it to be in LA because I can't stomach another game 5 loss in Atlanta, and I want it to not be heartbreaking because I've had enough of that recently between this team, the Falcons and UGA in the postseason.
Now that we got that out the way,
let's go win us a damn baseball game.
Now that we got that out the way,
let's go win us a damn baseball game.
stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
MLBN is showing Garcia vs Nolasco in their trailer for the Tigers, A's game. Personally, I'd much rather see Nolasco/Kershaw than Kershaw/Grienke.
Media would know by now if he's throwing Kershaw, wouldn't they?
Media would know by now if he's throwing Kershaw, wouldn't they?