GDT: July 10th, 2013 - Braves @ Marlins - Chris hitting 5th - Pastor SS

ChapelHillMatt said:
I'm more worried abut his speed going than I am his bat. 33 is not old, you can still be a good hitter at that age.

But the decision was BJ vs Bourn and the choice should have been Bourn. It's not like BJ is going to be good either. You would have a better argument if we signed a productive player that fit the same role but we didn't, we went for a completely different type of player that was a horrible fit for this team.
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I can't defend Upton. He has been horrible. I do think he has much more upside than Bourn but thats a different story.

I actually think Bourn will maintain his speed but I just think his bat speed will slow and will continue to strike out a lot not his for as high of an average. Once his average is in the 260's he is a horrible baseball player because he has no power and won't walk as much as he has.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
I'm more worried abut his speed going than I am his bat. 33 is not old, you can still be a good hitter at that age.

But the decision was BJ vs Bourn and the choice should have been Bourn. It's not like BJ is going to be good either. You would have a better argument if we signed a productive player that fit the same role but we didn't, we went for a completely different type of player that was a horrible fit for this team.
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Yeah if you were a good hitter to begin with. Being a low walk, high strikeout guy is not a good hitter period.

And no there was no decision between Bourn and BJ. If the Braves could have gotten Bourn for 40 mil our whatever it was the Indians got him for then he would probably still be here. But he was seeking 60 million and no way the Braves were going to pay him that given his age.
 
jason27nc said:
Oh and for you Bourn lovers, He has already started his downward spiral. He is 10 for his last 48 giving him a .208 avg and a .224 OBP during that span. So he hasn't exactly been tearing it up either.
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I am not a Bourn lover. I liked him a lot while he was here. The team made a serious error in judgement and opted to not have a lead off hitter and instead get a free swinging "power" guy. And a .208 clip is higher than Upton has been all season.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
I am not a Bourn lover. I liked him a lot while he was here. The team made a serious error in judgement and opted to not have a lead off hitter and instead get a free swinging "power" guy. And a .208 clip is higher than Upton has been all season.
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Yeah the issue isn't so much letting Bourn go, it's not having a leadoff hitter to replace him. I woudn't care that Bourn left if we had a leadoff hitter setting the table for our power hitters.

But we don't.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
Yeah the issue isn't so much letting Bourn go, it's not having a leadoff hitter to replace him. I woudn't care that Bourn left if we had a leadoff hitter setting the table for our power hitters.

But we don't.
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Who should the Braves have gotten to be lead off hitter? Who was out and available for the right price given their age?
 
NinersSBChamps said:
I am not a Bourn lover. I liked him a lot while he was here. The team made a serious error in judgement and opted to not have a lead off hitter and instead get a free swinging "power" guy. And a .208 clip is higher than Upton has been all season.
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I'm not comparing the two. I think Bourn is done. I also liked him when he was here but I don't think he was the answer to this years team either.

BJ has sucked and lacks effort on almost every play he is involved in. I think Schafer would be the best choice of the three.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
I am not a Bourn lover. I liked him a lot while he was here. The team made a serious error in judgement and opted to not have a lead off hitter and instead get a free swinging "power" guy. And a .208 clip is higher than Upton has been all season.
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Alea iacta est. He's hitting .177 with a .570 OPS, so I don't know why any of you all are wasting letters and bandwidth belaboring the point that he's been bad: it's entirely self-evident.

But he's going to play; that's just how these things go. Wren has seventy-five million reasons to allow him time to prove his signing wasn't an "error in judgment," or at least not the exorbitant one it appears to be three months into his contract. Honestly, it's a set of circumstances that at this point doesn't warrant pages upon pages of reiteration.
 
jpx7 said:
Alea iacta est. He's hitting .177 with a .570 OPS, so I don't know why any of you all are wasting letters and bandwidth belaboring the point that he's been bad: it's entirely self-evident.

But he's going to play; that's just how these things go. Wren has seventy-five million reasons to allow him time to prove his signing wasn't an "error in judgment," or at least not the exorbitant one it appears to be three months into his contract. Honestly, it's a set of circumstances that at this point doesn't warrant pages upon pages of reiteration.
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If BJ was having his normal expected season we wouldn't be having this discussion. Unfortunately he's not.
 
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