chop2chip
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You and I are making the same point. Olson has been a much superior defensive player while providing similar offense.
Hence why Olson has been better cumulatively the last 4 seasons
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Hence why Olson has been better cumulatively the last 4 seasons
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I think added lango is fair...but I also think Olson starts to separate the nest few years to help balance..
I will say I didnt see lango developing into this hitting beast
I will say I didnt see lango developing into this hitting beast
Im content with my Drake Baldwin
msstate7
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The question is are you content with your Heim
Hudson2
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Yep bc if we keep Lango then Baldwin probably gets traded. Olson/Baldwin > Freeman/Langeliers
Carp
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Freeman is still an elite 1b though, even if the production has fallen off.
We'd still be better off with Freeman and the package of prospects we traded away, which could have been used to get a TOR starter like Pablo Lopez or Dylan Cease.
Metaphysicist
Not Actually Brian Hunter
Absolutely wrong.
Olson is a vastly better defender than Freddie at this point. Since 2023, Freddie is -12 DRS and Olson is +42. For their careers, Olson is +92 and Freddie is -3. Olson is probably the greatest defensive first baseman of the modern (DRS started in the 2000s) era.
msstate7
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In your scenario, is Baldwin traded for nothing? You have to include his package
I think it's fair to say that right now Olson is a step above Freeman on defense.
Tapate50
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What’s Baldwins package gotta do with it
As time marches on these types of scenarios become less relevant. Would it have made the team better the past few years? Possibily. 2026 onward? Hard to say. We could have sent Shea + others for Cease at some point. But Cease wouldn't be on the team right now.
I think uncblue is the leading expert on Baldwin’s package
If there ever is a time to activate someone early it's in Coors
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Does that hold for pitchers, too?
Love the Drake
Its going to get better - Still much higher on Murphy than it seems the consensus is here.
Got a lot of life in that bat still.
zbhargrove
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Agreed!
Actually, no. He wishes he were….
The leading expert on every package on this roster is, has been, and will be for the foreseeable future Cy’s Mom.
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Not Actually Brian Hunter
I really struggle to assume that someone who breaks out 3-4 years after we traded them would have broken out with us and been the same player if they stayed. Langeliers is pretty dang good now, but he has been developed by the A’s for five years. It seems wrong to assume that has no bearing on the player he became.