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Definition of disinformation
: false information deliberately and often covertly spread (as by the planting of rumors) in order to influence public opinion or obscure the truth

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Your move. Tell me what disinformation have I spread or else admit you’re just upset that the bad TRUE information is coming out.

if your picture were next to the definition it would perfect it
 
Yeah I'm not sure how posting a video of us congressional testimony is peddling Russia disinfo

Which part of the info is inaccurate?
 
At some point you'll all let us know what was Russian Deza (False rumors) in this thread. Any minute now...
 
if your picture were next to the definition it would perfect it

Ah - So you're going with the Hunter Biden Laptop Russian Deza angle.

Who could have ever thought you would have gone with a different approach?

Do you realize in your attempt to label VERFIED information Deza that you are pushing your own Deza?
 
Yeah I'm not sure how posting a video of us congressional testimony is peddling Russia disinfo

Which part of the info is inaccurate?

There is no Deza being spread. This is just the first admission by the US government of these aggressive actions in a 'neutral' country that is considered one of the most corrupt in the world next to an enemy that is itching to cement his legacy.

What could go wrong?
 
Never forget that questioning the Russian Collusion lie in the first few years was Russian Disinformation.

Are you guys seeing the pattern here?
 
Never forget that questioning the Russian Collusion lie in the first few years was Russian Disinformation.

Are you guys seeing the pattern here?

In general I'm comfortable not aligning my positions with the people who have constantly lied and fallen for the lies for a decade.
 
In general I'm comfortable not aligning my positions with the people who have constantly lied and fallen for the lies for a decade.

As you've always said. I get more comfortable with my positions after my interactions on this forum.
 
It seems to me you are just looking for pretexts to justify Putin's war. I look forward to more. The lord's work is never done. Just don't go crying and whining when there is some pushback.
 
In general I'm comfortable not aligning my positions with the people who have constantly lied and fallen for the lies for a decade.

Yeah. So you must be quite comfortable with the "Putin is perfectly rational" point of view since it is the opposite of mine.

Hey guess what sturg. I think the world is round. Have fun with that one you moronic twat.
 
It seems to me you are just looking for pretexts to justify Putin's war. I look forward to more. The lord's work is never done. Just don't go crying and whining when there is some pushback.

Looks to me that you want to completely ignore that we live in a world system where the actions of one impact the other.

Keep spreading your own Deza though that the "international Rules based order" are the super duper good guys that don't do anything wrong.

Its just a very immature way of thinking and what I would expect from you.
 
"The first casualty of war is the truth. "

"The truth is so important that it must be surrounded with bodyguards of lies."
 
There is no Deza being spread. This is just the first admission by the US government of these aggressive actions in a 'neutral' country that is considered one of the most corrupt in the world next to an enemy that is itching to cement his legacy.

What could go wrong?

Actually I don't see any admission by the US government that Ukraine is developing or planning to use biological weapons. I do see Nuland saying it is a classic Russian technique to prepare the ground to blame Ukraine if it chose to use such weapons. The clip is a very nice piece of deza. Congrats to you and other Putinophiles on seizing upon it to justify Putin's war.

Did you know there were a lot of Jewish physicists engaged in nuclear research in Germany and elsewhere in the 1930s. Just sayin. Some of them even helped us develop the bomb.
 
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Actually I don't see any admission by the US government that Ukraine is developing or planning to use biological weapons. I do see Nuland saying it is a classic Russian technique to prepare the ground to blame Ukraine if it chose to use such weapons. The clip is a very nice piece of deza. Congrats for you and other Putinophiles to seize upon it to justify Putin's war.

That would be a wild thing to admit to but that isn't even the claim anyone is making.

What justification exists to put Bio"research" labs in one of the most corrupt nations in the world next to one of our strongest enemies? Why did the US embassy in Ukraine delete the records of this from their website two weeks ago?

I see the hoop jumping on your part is commencing.
 
Yeah I'm not sure how posting a video of us congressional testimony is peddling Russia disinfo

Which part of the info is inaccurate?

Strictly speaking it is not inaccurate. That's part of makes it very skillful deza. It takes a clip and uses it to advance the argument that Putin is justified in his paranoia since Ukraine is developing biological weapons. And if in fact biological agents are released in Ukraine it further allows Putin to claim the Ukrainians unleashed it. So a video that is not "inaccurate" can still be very useful for the purposes of advancing deza. This is not that hard. But obtuseness is your specialty. And pro-Putin deza is what thethe chose to disseminate this morning. Sorry thethe for using the "new racism" against you.

Nuland of course deserves some criticism for phrasing her answer in a way that allows it to be used in this way. The pro-Putin folks are having a field day with it. But I don't criticize her too much. She could have given a simple no to Rubio's question, but seemed to go out of her way to give him as much information about the situation as possible. The folks looking for something to use to advance their narrative will always find something. If not from Nuland then someone else.

I mean it is true that Jewish scientists from Europe helped us build the bomb. von Neumann. Enrico Fermi, a Jew from Italy. Einstein wrote FDR a letter urging him to fund the research. Plus others. There is nothing "inaccurate" about that. So yanno maybe Hitler wasn't so crazy. Maybe he was just prescient and "perfectly rational."
 
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Strictly speaking it is not inaccurate. That's part of makes it very skillful deza. It takes a clip and uses it to advance the argument that Putin is justified in his paranoia since Ukraine is developing biological weapons. And if in fact biological agents are released in Ukraine it further allows Putin to claim the Ukrainians unleashed it. So a video that is not "inaccurate" can still be very useful for the purposes of advancing deza. This is not that hard. But obtuseness is your specialty.

So a video that shows the US is further encroaching on 'neutral' territory isn't another page in the story that we are pushing Ukraine towards the EU/NATO despite the whole intention of the country was to be a neutral buffer?

Your act is so transparent bud.
 
Nuland of course deserves some criticism for phrasing her answer in a way that allows it to be used in this way. The pro-Putin folks are having a field day with it. But I don't criticize her too much. She could have given a simple no to Rubio's question, but seemed to go out of her way to give him as much information about the situation as possible. The folks looking for something to use to advance their narrative will always find something. If not from Nuland then someone else.

You do realize that Nuland has a history right?

And are you saying that now the powers that be are disclosing too much turthful information and aren't holding anything back? Is that the position you really want to take after what we have seen the past few years?
 
Rt is state media

That’s a known fact. I’m saying you get your perspective from Russian state media and outright crazy people here in the USA.

You seem to live in a fantasy world of thinking you’re a patriot when it’s really you just bored with a comfortable lifestyle.

ALso the guy he quoted is a real winner, there's a whole archive of deleted tweets from him. Some winners.

21:07 < Martyrmade> [77] Why vote Trump? Because the only thing worse than Nazi Germany was Weimar Germany.

06:07 < Martyrmade> [69] Obama might have his merits, but he's been the worst foreign policy president since FDR chose the wrong side in WW2. https://t.co/ieE46mJK7q <twitter.com/sputnikint/sta…>


And some photo evidence

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Real winner.
 
OMG! Some random person that was quoted has radical ideas!!!

Lets dismiss anything this person says forever.

You people are just not serious at all.

Hows that Russian Disinfo laptop doing Zito?
 
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