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Maduro dropping three zeroes from the currency because it's worth less than toilet paper.
 
It's far too little and too late, but Congress and the FCC are waking up to the China threat:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...c-wants-chinese-tech-out-of-us-phones-routers

“Threats to national security posed by certain communications equipment providers are a matter of bipartisan concern,” Pai said. “Hidden ‘back doors’ to our networks in routers, switches — and virtually any other type of telecommunications equipment — can provide an avenue for hostile governments to inject viruses, launch denial-of-service attacks, steal data, and more.”

Pai plans for the FCC to vote next month on a rule that would bar U.S. companies from using a federal subsidy program to purchase equipment from companies entangled with foreign intelligence agencies. The proposed rule is being considered in light of congressional concern that AT&T and Verizon might purchase phones or other hardware from Huawei, a company that the U.S. intelligence community believes is in cooperation with Chinese spies.


A ban on all telecomm components from China would be more appropriate, but at least some progress is being made.
 
Oklahomahawk said:
Which truth are you referring to, the Arabs vs. Jews truth or the European "Christian" vs. jews truth? Just curious and serious.
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Well there is certainly a history between all people and the Jews but I'm specifically talking about Islam and judaism. But in general Islam attempts to dominate anywhere it lives.
 
thethe said:
Well there is certainly a history between all people and the Jews but I'm specifically talking about Islam and judaism. But in general Islam attempts to dominate anywhere it lives.
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Well the Christian vs. Jew thing goes back close to 2000 because the Jews killed Jesus (which of course isn't even true) but the Muslim vs. Jew goes back nearly 1400 years and if you just dial that back slightly to Arab vs. Jew you could easily go back nearly 4000 years. That's some serious history of hate right there.
 
It's weird to me that you, thethe, are fired up by this but unwilling to confront the fact that you're regularly amplifying voices that are openly anti-Semitic. Some of those European nationalists whose tweets you post are Holocaust deniers and anti-semites. When called on this, you tend to just say "well, they're right about X or Y."

Come on, my dude.
 
Julio3000 said:
It's weird to me that you, thethe, are fired up by this but unwilling to confront the fact that you're regularly amplifying voices that are openly anti-Semitic. Some of those European nationalists whose tweets you post are Holocaust deniers and anti-semites. When called on this, you tend to just say "well, they're right about X or Y."

Come on, my dude.
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And as I've responded to you. The 'alt-right' is broadly brandished as anti-semites which I don't even believe is accurate. Be mindful that when I say alt right it's the over exaggerated conflation of anyone with conservative viewpoints on immigration.

However, you have another swatch of people where over 100 million would be thrilled with the destruction of the Jewish state.

There's a difference of scale that you fail to acknowledge.

But back to the real topic at hand and that's Islam destroying Europe.
 
Oklahomahawk said:
Well the Christian vs. Jew thing goes back close to 2000 because the Jews killed Jesus (which of course isn't even true) but the Muslim vs. Jew goes back nearly 1400 years and if you just dial that back slightly to Arab vs. Jew you could easily go back nearly 4000 years. That's some serious history of hate right there.
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Care to parse this a little more? It doesn’t really accord with my understanding of contemporary theses regarding those two “populations” (where “Jew” is a relatively recent Roman Imperial-period designation for, vaguely, Yahwist peoples; and “Arab” even more recently came to describe “users of the liturgical abjab”, versus “the semi-discontinuous mobile desert tribes of the peninsular Near East”).

Certainly there was plenty of conflict (and strategic alliance) between Yahwist and their neighbors in pre- and mid-Kingdoms periods, but the bulk of that concerned Egyptian (New Kingdom, Intermediate/Kush-ite, and even Ptolemaic), Akkadian, Assyrian—all Semitic peoples, but distinctly not “Arabic”—as well as Persian/Achaemenid (and thus Indo-European) incursions. Moreover, the Yahwist city-states didn’t really emerge as a distinctly other-than-Canaanite (from which milieu they emerged) nation until roughly 2700-2500 years ago.

Even “2000 years” for “Christian vs Jew” seems to stretch a bit. The early medieval period seems (just as with Christian vs Muslim) to be the more defensible locating of the “origins” of these conflicts, writ large or semi-global; while “Jew vs Muslim” is more complicated, but not really tenable past 1300 years ago (and I would argue this latter “versus” was reframed enough by colonial divestment and Zionism to be a totally different discourse now than 150 years ago).
 
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