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Screw that. Anything beyond a few advisors or SOF is too much. No combat troops. Better to just bomb what we don’t like and leave the rest over that.
 
Jaw said:
Screw that. Anything beyond a few advisors or SOF is too much. No combat troops. Better to just bomb what we don’t like and leave the rest over that.
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No troops - it has to be a coalition of middle eastern nations that will most benefit from a free Iran. We will take something off the top for our efforts.
 
chop2chip said:
Light on specifics

“After” what?

“Decapitate from the IRGC” what does this mean?

“Take a while” how long?

“Stabilizing ground force… support from the US” what type of support?
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After the IRGC is defanged for good. When they have no economic engine to pay their people or acquire weaponry. When the lose alliances across the world because we control the resources.

The after will take years to iron out but the oil will flow and partnerships will form. Anyone pretending to have any specifics is lying to your face.
 
thethe said:
After the IRGC is defanged for good. When they have no economic engine to pay their people or acquire weaponry. When the lose alliances across the world because we control the resources.

The after will take years to iron out but the oil will flow and partnerships will form. Anyone pretending to have any specifics is lying to your face.
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thethe said:
No troops - it has to be a coalition of middle eastern nations that will most benefit from a free Iran. We will take something off the top for our efforts.
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I don’t find it likely at all that the Gulf states will stick their neck out to send ground forces into Iran. I will eat crow if they do.

But glad to have you on record with “no troops” as your hardline.
 
chop2chip said:
I don’t find it likely at all that the Gulf states will stick their neck out to send ground forces into Iran. I will eat crow if they do.

But glad to have you on record with “no troops” as your hardline.
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I agree that it’s looking more likely troops will be implemented and it would be a mistake. Fortunately I’m not the one making that decision and I drill have to default to the foreign policy record of Trump and team which has been exemplary.
 
chop2chip said:
No serious person is questioning the battlefields tactics or the operational goals (the things that “change daily”). It’s fine if they don’t tell the public that.

But yes.. our government has an obligation to state the objectives of military action to us. We are risking a global energy crisis — a threat that increases each day of conflict. US Central Command said war (or whatever it’s being called lol) is likely to last until at least September. The price of a barrel of oil went from $55 to over $90 in a week. Where will it be in September?

Our government owes our service members a clearly defined mission, so that when they accomplish it they can come home. To expect less than that is apathy.
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Oil > $110
 
In this country we are looking at oil prices, but the interruption in natural gas supplies is of greater economic importance to Europe and Asia.
 
Qatar ships 30% of Taiwan's liquefied natural gas through Hormuz. Taiwan has 11 days of reserves left. TSMC, the company that makes 90% of the world's advanced chips, draws 8.9% of Taiwan's total electricity. No gas, no power, no chips.

Even before this war broke out supply chains were struggling to keep up with the demand for chips and prices were rising fast.
 
Now let's talk about food. 33% of the world's nitrogen fertilizer feedstock moves through the Strait. Half of all humans alive today exist because of synthetic nitrogen.
 
Most of the feedstock for sulfuric acid also transits through the Strait. Sulfuric acid is needed to extract copper and cobalt. Which are needed for transformers, EV batteries and data centers.
 
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