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thethe said:
More people int he world would suffer if we attacked the CCP but hey you can continue your absurd arguments.
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I’d imagine 11.7 million Uygurs in China disagree. We’d certainly be able to find random videos of people celebrating around the world, which I’ve learned on this board is an important component to how we should direct our foreign policy. I’m also confident the brilliance of Trump, and the ruthless effectiveness of Pete Hegseth leading the most lethal fighting force in world history, could pull it off. But I guess you’d rather the people suffer.
 
acesfull86 said:
I’d imagine 11.7 million Uygurs in China disagree. We’d certainly be able to find random videos of people celebrating around the world, which I’ve learned on this board is an important component to how we should direct our foreign policy. I’m also confident the brilliance of Trump, and the ruthless effectiveness of Pete Hegseth leading the most lethal fighting force in world history, could pull it off. But I guess you’d rather the people suffer.
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This is just nonsense coming from a disgruntled Libertarian whose world view is the equivalent of an idealistic teenager.
 
IRAN? CUBA? Nope, Burlington Vermont. ICE breaks down door to drag out 3 residents—throws flash grenades & tear gas at protesters. Neighbors block agents' vehicles—to prevent them from leaving with people they detained. This is what ICE is actually doing. Make sure this gets seen!

 
chop2chip said:
Well they should probably start sometime soon. It’s 14-0 in the 4th inning.
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Honest question: how exactly might they do that? We could just bomb them all day, every day for as long as Trump and Congress are willing to pay for new bombs. I want all our service members to return home safely and as such hope we continue to witness a tepid defense by Iran, but without a clear objective for what the hell exactly we’re doing there, I’m not even sure what winning looks like in this conflict.
 
mqt said:
Honest question: how exactly might they do that? We could just bomb them all day, every day for as long as Trump and Congress are willing to pay for new bombs. I want all our service members to return home safely and as such hope we continue to witness a tepid defense by Iran, but without a clear objective for what the hell exactly we’re doing there, I’m not even sure what winning looks like in this conflict.
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Whether the US “wins” the war (which mind you I’m with you - I don’t understand what we hope to gain from this) —it is not the same as Iranian having already lost the war.

The most they can do is lay mines in water and fly robots at buildings.
 
chop2chip said:
Whether the US “wins” the war (which mind you I’m with you - I don’t understand what we hope to gain from this) —it is not the same as Iranian having already lost the war.

The most they can do is lay mines in water and fly robots at buildings.
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Ultimately I’m just not sure this isn’t how Iran could ever “win” to begin with, short of making their own country so inhospitable and/or holding on for so long that America just grows tired of the cost involved. Getting shellacked and losing politicians left and right might be the closest approximation to signs of an Iran “victory” as is possible given the circumstances.
 
Tapate50 said:
Yes losing leaders and assets are usually how these things go
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They are, yes. But if the only “winning” scenario for Iran is to stave off the US and Israel installing a government of their choosing, it seems hard to tell the difference between success and failure until all the dust settles.
 
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