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nsacpi said:
man this is stupid...decisions on tear gas are typically local police decisions...i was living in oakland when tear gas was used on occasion (sometimes involving antifa)...no one called that obama using tear gas on his own people...i think tear gas was also used in ferguson, missouri...again a local police decision

i guess macron is not up there in your pantheon of heroes next to ron paul

btw i have some good news...willful obtuseness can be cured without reassignment surgery
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Hey man I'm just trying to keep up.

Two weeks ago with the CBP used tear gas it was Trump gassing people.

I assume we'll be consistent with our language now, right?
 
I like this reader's take in the comments section to the article I linked above:

This movement has no spokesperson, no leader, and therefore no message. The only thing these people have to say is “we are not happy and we want more”. There is nothing to analyze about it.
 
sturg33 said:
So it's not gassing people, then?
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dude...why the overload on obtuseness...

if you want to come out and say it was so unfair to blame trump for the cpb using gas, you can come out and say it...this is a safe zone...come on out...no one will judge u
 
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nsacpi said:
dude...why the overload on obtuseness...

if you want to come out and say it was so unfair to blame trump for the cpb using gas, you can come out and say it...this is a safe zone...come on out...no one will judge u
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My friend... i'm not the one who lights his hair on fire after everything Donald J Trump does.

I'm the one who calls out the hypocrisy though.

And here we are again.. where is the media writing all the stories on Macron gassing his own people? Where is 57 and runnin talking about the facist dictator in France?

Sorry to offend you by calling this out
 
sturg33 said:
My friend... i'm not the one who lights his hair on fire after everything Donald J Trump does.

I'm the one who calls out the hypocrisy though.

And here we are again.. where is the media writing all the stories on Macron gassing his own people? Where is 57 and runnin talking about the facist dictator in France?

Sorry to offend you by calling this out
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it's ok to be trumpophilic...I have lots of trumpophilic friends...I accept them...they accept me even though I'm trumpophobic
 
The protesters demands......


End of the tax hike on fuel.
Promote the transport of goods by rail.
Tax on marine fuel oil and kerosene.
Monthly minimum wage at 1,300 euros net ($1947 CAD per month after taxes).
Indexing of all wages, pensions and allowances to inflation.
Nationalization of the fuel for home heating and electricity sectors.
More progressive income tax (more marginal tax brackets).
The end of the austerity.
No withholding tax.
Restoring the taxes for the ultra-wealthy.
Same social security system for all workers, including the self-employed.
The pension system must remain in solidarity and therefore socialized.
No retirement pension below 1,200 euros ($1797/month CAD).
Increase of disability allowances.
Retirement at age 60, and a right to early retirement at 55 for workers who have worked a hard manual labour job.
Continuation of the Pajemploi help system until the child is 10 years old.
End of outsourcing of work for French corporations.
Limit the number of fixed-term contracts for large companies, replaced with more full time employment.
Maximum salary fixed at 15,000 euros [monthly] ($22469/month, or maximum annual salary of ~$270,000).
Jobs for the unemployed.
Any elected representative will be entitled to the median national salary.
The popular referendum must enter into the Constitution. Creating a readable and effective site, supervised by an independent control body where people can make a proposal for a law. If this bill obtains 700,000 signatures then this bill will have to be discussed, completed and amended by the National Assembly, which will have the obligation, one year to the day after obtaining the 700,000 signatures, to submit it to the vote of all French.
Return to a seven-year term for the President of the Republic.
End of presidential allowances for life.
Proportional voting system.
Elimination of of the Senate.
Accounting of the protest/blank/none of the above ballots.
Promote small businesses in villages and town centers. Stop the construction of large commercial areas around the big cities that kill the small business. More free parking in city centers.
No further privatization of French infrastructure.
Improved funding for the justice system, the police, the gendarmerie and the army.
All the money earned by highway tolls will be used for the maintenance of motorways and roads in France and road safety.
Immediate closure of private trains, post offices, schools and maternity homes.
Maximum 25 students per class for all ages.
Large corporations (McDonald's, Google, Amazon, Carrefour ...) pay big [taxes], small businesses (artisans, SMEs) pay small [taxes].
Protect the French industry to prohibit outsourcing.
End of the business tax credit. Use this money for the launch of a French hydrogen car industry.
Eliminate credit card fees for merchants.
Lower employers' charges.
Continue exemption of farm diesel.
Improve the lives of the elderly, by banning exploitation and making money off the elderly.
Substantial boosts in mental health fund.
Prohibition of glyphosate.
Immediate end to temporary foreign worker programs.
Plan for improving insulation of housing (help the environment by helping the household).
Rent control. More low-rent housing (especially for students and precarious workers).
Treat the root causes of forced migration.
Fair treatment of asylum seekers . We owe them housing, security, food and education. Work with the UN to have host camps open in many countries around the world, pending the outcome of the asylum application.
Return of unsuccessful asylum seekers to their country of origin.
Real integration policy is implemented. Living in France means becoming French (French language course, French history course and civic education course with certification at the end of the course)
 
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Yellow vests bringing out the ol guillotine. Maybe its the French in me but I love some open rebellion. This really all boils down to the French people being upset that the socialist policies they wanted ****ed up the country and now they are demanding the French Government dig that hole deeper and make things even worse. French unemployment is at almost 10%. That leaves about 6 million people without jobs with nothing better to do but protest. Its been a while since I checked up on the situation in France but I believe its almost impossible to fire people there so employers are really hesitant about hiring and young people cant get jobs. Atleast thats what I remember from the last time they mass protested. They keep getting what they want then getting mad that what they wanted made things worse. Its the vicious cycle of socialism. Its always someone elses fault.
 
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cajunrevenge said:




Yellow vests bringing out the ol guillotine. Maybe its the French in me but I love some open rebellion. This really all boils down to the French people being upset that the socialist policies they wanted ****ed up the country and now they are demanding the French Government dig that hole deeper and make things even worse. French unemployment is at almost 10%. That leaves about 6 million people without jobs with nothing better to do but protest. Its been a while since I checked up on the situation in France but I believe its almost impossible to fire people there so employers are really hesitant about hiring and young people cant get jobs. Atleast thats what I remember from the last time they mass protested. They keep getting what they want then getting mad that what they wanted made things worse. Its the vicious cycle of socialism. Its always someone elses fault.
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It's a good thing our country now worships at the alter of socialism now
 
nsacpi said:
cant remember the last time an accused spy turned into a cooperating witness...very odd
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Either Butina doesn't want to be extradited and killed.

Or Kremlin wants her to expose just how easy the NRA and GOP can be bought and how corrupt our campaign finance system is, further embarrassing our political system. Between this, and the powerplays by the lameduck GOP legislatures trying to create last second changes before newly elected Dem reps come in, just more ammo for Putin and China to show the rest of the world how the leader of the freeworld continues to embarrass itself by electing an embarrassing leader and how easy it is to infiltrate our elections. Just creates a further cloud of suspicion of illegitimacy.
 
Individual-1 said:
Either Butina doesn't want to be extradited and killed.

Or Kremlin wants her to expose just how easy the NRA and GOP can be bought and how corrupt our campaign finance system is, further embarrassing our political system. Between this, and the powerplays by the lameduck GOP legislatures trying to create last second changes before newly elected Dem reps come in, just more ammo for Putin and China to show the rest of the world how the leader of the freeworld continues to embarrass itself by electing an embarrassing leader and how easy it is to infiltrate our elections. Just creates a further cloud of suspicion of illegitimacy.
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maybe she wants to live in a country with strong gun rights...occam's razor
 
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