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Thatcher had two expressions I liked a lot

one was tina... which stood for there is no alternative

the other was the lady is not for the turning

both express essentially the same idea...what Americans would call sticking to your guns

Macron would do well to keep these expressions in mind...they are not ideological in nature...but rather reminders that leadership requires steadfastness, determination and yes stubbornness
 
in fact I would go so far as to say that steadiness of purpose is the most important quality a leader has to have...whether it be in politics, business or other fields
 
California's Public Utilities Commission could charge fee for text messaging
Plan would levy flat surcharge on mobile users who send text messages
Money would be raised to help poor people have access to cell phones
Telecom companies have come out against the plan



I hope Californians come out against this
 
Judge Chutkin has a sense of humor. She notes that by pleading guilty Butina may be forfeiting her right to bear a firearm.
 
Krgrecw said:
California's Public Utilities Commission could charge fee for text messaging
Plan would levy flat surcharge on mobile users who send text messages
Money would be raised to help poor people have access to cell phones
Telecom companies have come out against the plan



I hope Californians come out against this
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Which is ironic because the tax will hurt the poor the most.
 
Julio3000 said:
In my experience with France and the French (I worked for a French company and travelled there a bit, though quite a while ago) this is not too far off. When I went there as a student there were transit strikes and farmers dumping potatoes on train tracks. Later, when I was there in a professional capacity, some people were pissed at Sarkozy and the movement towards liberalization of the economy and dismantling of the welfare state, and some were pissed because they wanted more of it. But everyone was pissed, more or less all the time, and unlike here, willing to hit the streets.

I know very little of what’s going on there now, but superficially it looks like kinda familiar from my previous experiences, which is that everyone wants socialism for me, but not necessarily for thee...which contains a sort of a contradiction, but so be it.
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Yes, this is what I have read. Its weird to hear both the far left and far right of protesting together. Their demands are a mix of right and left issues but its mostly left on the financial demands. They love taxes, just not on them. Theres a big tax break for rich people investing their money to encourage buisnesses. This seems to be the tax break they want repealed. Macron knows this will have the opposite effect they think it will. And at the end of the day capitulating to protesters just encourages more protesting.
 
I'm very happy to be consistently reassured that progressives have no interest in oppressing speech.

In light of that, I found the UK police threatening citizens for offensive speech and non crimes a little surprising

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cajunrevenge said:
https://www.newsweek.com/france-pro...lets-jaunes-yellow-vests-pay-overtime-1264961



French police threaten to join the protesters. Personally thry shouldnt give them a damn thing until the gang of co0s that attacked people filming are identified. I cant ppst the video atm but its just people filming on their phones and cops running up behind them and attacking them for no apparent reason.
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Starting to sound like July of 1789 except it was soldiers joining the crowd instead of cops, though in this day and age it would be one and the same.
 
American involvement in this is a moral sinkhole. It needs to end yesterday. We should be leading the charge to negotiate an end to the humanitarian crisis, the starvation and disease outbreaks. Instead we’re looking the other way and making excuses for MBS and selling them munitions and refueling their planes.
 
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