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It's OVER 5,000!
Maybe you forgot during your sabbatical, but sturg has criticized The Donald plenty.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
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Fantastic idea from credibly accused creepy joe. I've hired Russian and Ukrainian programmers. The last one I hired was a young woman from Russia. Give me moar. Almost every single programmer my company has hired has been an immigrant. The best one was from the Dominican Republic. He's got a senior job with a much bigger company now. They come here. Have a family. Pay taxes. And make tremendous contributions to society. Russia's loss is our gain.
Fantastic idea from credibly accused creepy joe. I've hired Russian and Ukrainian programmers. The last one I hired was a young woman from Russia. Give me moar. Almost every single programmer my company has hired has been an immigrant. The best one was from the Dominican Republic. He's got a senior job with a much bigger company now. They come here. Have a family. Pay taxes. And make tremendous contributions to society. Russia's loss is our gain.
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zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
You do realize that Kyiv is relatively safe all things considered right now right? Russia retreated about a month ago.
And I'm sure the US diplomats would have told Russia she was doing this. And Russia doing anything around Kyiv would result in a murderfest they wouldn't be able to ever recover from. Even if they didn't she was running in there with the best security in the world.
And I'm sure the US diplomats would have told Russia she was doing this. And Russia doing anything around Kyiv would result in a murderfest they wouldn't be able to ever recover from. Even if they didn't she was running in there with the best security in the world.
sturg33
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This dude is such a seal
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Right. I'm the seal.
Found your next talking points.
https://m.jpost.com/international/article-705627
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Western attention is focused on the millions of refugees who have fled Ukraine since the Russian assault began on Feb. 24. But Russia is also in the midst of an emigration wave that is upending its spheres of arts and journalism, and especially the world of tech.
The Russian Association for Electronic Communications told the lower house of Russia’s parliament last month that 50,000 to 70,000 tech workers have fled the country, with 100,000 more expected to leave over the next month — for a total of about 10 percent of the sector’s workforce. Ok Russians, a new nonprofit group helping emigres, used a sampling of data from neighboring nations and social media surveys to estimate that nearly 300,000 Russians overall had left since the war began.
Mitya Aleshkovskiy, co-founder of Ok Russians, said some of those leaving are opposition activists, artists and journalists — people whom President Vladimir Putin is probably happy to see go, and whose departure could reduce active dissent within Russia. But nearly half of those leaving hail from tech — a highly transient, globally in-demand workforce that includes many who fear Russia’s global isolation, newly adverse business climate and near-total authoritarianism.
The Russian government is “really scared and shocked,” Aleshkovskiy said. “The prime minister of Russia has been begging these guys to stay. He’s telling them, ‘Don’t worry that Apple leaves, we will build our own Apple Store. Please don’t go.’ … But I would say that the best people are leaving right now. … The highly skilled, highly educated, highly paid specialists.”
Thousands of Russians who left, initially fearing that Putin would seal Russia’s borders, have gone back in recent weeks. But at least some are expected to leave again, as experts predict a fresh wave of departures in the coming weeks and months. Experts on global migration and Russian population are calling the current exodus Russia’s single fastest since the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, when millions of intellectuals and economic elites fled the rise of the Soviet Union.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/01/russia-tech-exodus-ukraine-war/
The Russian Association for Electronic Communications told the lower house of Russia’s parliament last month that 50,000 to 70,000 tech workers have fled the country, with 100,000 more expected to leave over the next month — for a total of about 10 percent of the sector’s workforce. Ok Russians, a new nonprofit group helping emigres, used a sampling of data from neighboring nations and social media surveys to estimate that nearly 300,000 Russians overall had left since the war began.
Mitya Aleshkovskiy, co-founder of Ok Russians, said some of those leaving are opposition activists, artists and journalists — people whom President Vladimir Putin is probably happy to see go, and whose departure could reduce active dissent within Russia. But nearly half of those leaving hail from tech — a highly transient, globally in-demand workforce that includes many who fear Russia’s global isolation, newly adverse business climate and near-total authoritarianism.
The Russian government is “really scared and shocked,” Aleshkovskiy said. “The prime minister of Russia has been begging these guys to stay. He’s telling them, ‘Don’t worry that Apple leaves, we will build our own Apple Store. Please don’t go.’ … But I would say that the best people are leaving right now. … The highly skilled, highly educated, highly paid specialists.”
Thousands of Russians who left, initially fearing that Putin would seal Russia’s borders, have gone back in recent weeks. But at least some are expected to leave again, as experts predict a fresh wave of departures in the coming weeks and months. Experts on global migration and Russian population are calling the current exodus Russia’s single fastest since the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, when millions of intellectuals and economic elites fled the rise of the Soviet Union.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/01/russia-tech-exodus-ukraine-war/
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
“I thought I could be sent to war in the Ukraine,” said Maxim Nemkevich, a product manager at a major Russian IT firm who fled to Turkey in March after being asked by his university, where he was a consultant, to fill out a form with the “skills” he could offer the military.
“And then I thought, [Putin] would start to block IT specialists from leaving Russia, because so many of us are leaving and they need us. That convinced me it was time to leave.”
Russian tech workers, he said, are now “everywhere” in Istanbul. Temporary office spaces, restaurants and sidewalks are “filled with people speaking Russian. So many Russians are here.” He said he planned to remain in Turkey as long as possible and apply to graduate programs elsewhere in Europe.
“I’m afraid that Russia will become like North Korea. The national course will be self-isolation, and it will close all connection to the Western world, and be closely connected to China,” Nemkevich said. “I don’t want to live in that kind of country.”
Russia was running a deficit in skilled IT workers even before its invasion of Ukraine. The Russian Ministry of Digital Development last year placed the country’s shortage of tech workers between 500,000 and a million, with a deficit of 2 million projected by 2027.
“And then I thought, [Putin] would start to block IT specialists from leaving Russia, because so many of us are leaving and they need us. That convinced me it was time to leave.”
Russian tech workers, he said, are now “everywhere” in Istanbul. Temporary office spaces, restaurants and sidewalks are “filled with people speaking Russian. So many Russians are here.” He said he planned to remain in Turkey as long as possible and apply to graduate programs elsewhere in Europe.
“I’m afraid that Russia will become like North Korea. The national course will be self-isolation, and it will close all connection to the Western world, and be closely connected to China,” Nemkevich said. “I don’t want to live in that kind of country.”
Russia was running a deficit in skilled IT workers even before its invasion of Ukraine. The Russian Ministry of Digital Development last year placed the country’s shortage of tech workers between 500,000 and a million, with a deficit of 2 million projected by 2027.
nsacpi
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In his two-bedroom Moscow apartment, 35-year-old start-up wizard Pavel Telitchenko spent years mulling a move from Russia, fearing the gradual rise of a police state. Then, three days after the Kremlin’s tanks rolled into Ukraine, he made the hard choice — packing up his young family, along with his prized vinyl-record collection, and joining a historic exodus that includes a massive outflow of Russia’s best and brightest minds in tech.
With bans on flights between Russia and the European Union, getting to Riga meant flying first to St. Petersburg, then riding 14 hours on a bus. Then, as for so many Russians emigres, renting an apartment was an ordeal, in part because Western sanctions made it difficult for him to withdraw money or set up a bank account.
His mother back home fretted that everyone in Latvia — a former Soviet republic that is now a member of the European Union and NATO, and whose government is fiercely anti-Putin — would “hate Russians.” But instead, Telitchenko said, he and his family have found a warm reception among a people who lived under Moscow’s yoke in Soviet times.
“The Latvians understand,” he said.
With bans on flights between Russia and the European Union, getting to Riga meant flying first to St. Petersburg, then riding 14 hours on a bus. Then, as for so many Russians emigres, renting an apartment was an ordeal, in part because Western sanctions made it difficult for him to withdraw money or set up a bank account.
His mother back home fretted that everyone in Latvia — a former Soviet republic that is now a member of the European Union and NATO, and whose government is fiercely anti-Putin — would “hate Russians.” But instead, Telitchenko said, he and his family have found a warm reception among a people who lived under Moscow’s yoke in Soviet times.
“The Latvians understand,” he said.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
You are getting to the right answer for what to do when the government tells you to go kill people in a foreign country. Just. Say. NO. All these Russian soldiers should be held criminally liable and put to death for thousands if cases if murder and attenoted murder. Put out an international warrant for them so if they travel anywhere in the "free" world they will be arrested. Being back the electric chair for them. I am tired of people getting a pass for murdering people because they are in a military.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The ones in Bucha were kind enough to leave behind a list of all soldiers in the Russian army who went through that area. Certainly will make investigating and prosecuting those particular crimes easier.