Global Events & Politics Überthread

Since the world would be infinitely better with a free China I’d be willing to change the status quo.

I also don’t subscribe to the idea this would make a material impact in the lives of most people and would actually help people who are locked out of the current economy.

It sounds to me then you can empathize with leftists who wish to further indebt Americans by sending endless amounts of money and weapons to Ukraine, to fight off a global super power threat to Americans
 
Absolutely zero business with China until the ccp is destroyed. The fallou from this decision would pale in comparison to the long term benefit of free the Chinese people.

My favorite part about this is thethe realizing that China would .

1. Strike better business agreements with other nations (Russia, Turkey, etc.)
2. CCP existed for what 30 years or so without any trade with America. THey'd find a way to make it work.
3. Get ready for WWIII without a tense trade agreement there's nothing stopping China from going hard on Taiwan, India, etc.
 
Yes but my argument is actually, for the 101st time, that current support of a communist slave state is a centrally planned market, not a free one

A centrally planned deciison that arose from end state capitalism. You act like one day a utopia capitalist society deciddd to centrally plan.

That’s your blind spot.
 
My favorite part about this is thethe realizing that China would .

1. Strike better business agreements with other nations (Russia, Turkey, etc.)
2. CCP existed for what 30 years or so without any trade with America. THey'd find a way to make it work.
3. Get ready for WWIII without a tense trade agreement there's nothing stopping China from going hard on Taiwan, India, etc.

China crumbles to the ground without the U.S market. End of discussion.
 
It sounds to me then you can empathize with leftists who wish to further indebt Americans by sending endless amounts of money and weapons to Ukraine, to fight off a global super power threat to Americans

Not me. Russia should have been allies for a long time. Putin is a side show compared to the ccp.
 
A centrally planned deciison that arose from end state capitalism. You act like one day a utopia capitalist society deciddd to centrally plan.

That’s your blind spot.

That is actually precisely what happened, in the general devolution of the American economy

I'd say 1913 was the big match that started the fire.to where we are today
 
Not me. Russia should have been allies for a long time. Putin is a side show compared to the ccp.

Yeah but they see Russia the way you see China.

They have decided.in their central planning that it's worth risking American prosperity to stop Russia.
 
That is actually precisely what happened, in the general devolution of the American economy

I'd say 1913 was the big match that started the fire.to where we are today

So your idea of the best functioning economy was 1913?
 
Yeah but they see Russia the way you see China.

They have decided.in their central planning that it's worth risking American prosperity to stop Russia.

No they instigated Russia and wanted yhr war. CCPs actions have dwarfed anything Putin has done.
 
So your idea of the best functioning economy was 1913?

My idea is that was when we were most free.

Since then they decided they need to steal our income. They needed a money printer to finance wars. They needed ponzi schemes to.fund retirements. They wanted to centrally control medicine via Medicare. They took us completely off a currency backed by gold. They created world trade agreements and installed tarrifs. And the endless amounts of regulation created since then on businesses. They guaranteed bad debt from the federal government and bailed out banks and businesses with American tax money and inflation. They do not pay their bills anymore, instead raising the debt and taxing Americans via further inflation.

And here we are
 
No they instigated Russia and wanted yhr war. CCPs actions have dwarfed anything Putin has done.

That's thethes opinion

Nsacpis opinion is Russia is the big threat

Their central planners agree and have decided to ris American proposertity to take down Russia.

You're the same as them, you just have a different target
 
That's thethes opinion

Nsacpis opinion is Russia is the big threat

Their central planners agree and have decided to ris American proposertity to take down Russia.

You're the same as them, you just have a different target

And you prefer unelected aristocrats making the decisions as long as you aren’t aware of them.
 
A free market wouldn't have a centrally planned scheme to steal from Americans and send to Ukraine, I can guarantee you that!
 
My idea is that was when we were most free.

Since then they decided they need to steal our income. They needed a money printer to finance wars. They needed ponzi schemes to.fund retirements. They wanted to centrally control medicine via Medicare. They took us completely off a currency backed by gold. They created world trade agreements and installed tarrifs. And the endless amounts of regulation created since then on businesses. They guaranteed bad debt from the federal government and bailed out banks and businesses with American tax money and inflation. They do not pay their bills anymore, instead raising the debt and taxing Americans via further inflation.

And here we are

But who is “they”?
 
And you prefer unelected aristocrats making the decisions as long as you aren’t aware of them.

Ok. It is now abundantly clear that you do not understand my position, and you do not understand what a free market is.

I think we can close up shop here. Going in circles about your ignorance on a topic isnt as much fun as it is with the leftists
 
Ok. It is now abundantly clear that you do not understand my position, and you do not understand what a free market is.

I think we can close up shop here. Going in circles about your ignorance on a topic isnt as much fun as it is with the leftists

I don’t think you understand what you support actually. Because that’s the end result of the “free market”.
 
Oh so you still think this was strictly a government instigated world.

The federal reserve is a private company actually

It was created.in 1913.

It's the most powerful entity in the world.

They decide what interest rates will be. They decide.if they need to cause a recession. They decide if they need to buy or.ossie bonds. They decide how much money to put in the system.

It is a centrally planned economy.

I know what your stupid point is by the way... That shadowy rich people behind the scenes are pulling all the strings. And you're right!

But that is still a centrally planned system, not a free market system
 
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