Gohara Starting Tonight

If it were as simple to just get pitch data on pitchers to map out their careers, it seems there would be much more precision in prospect rankings and hardly any busts.
 
No organization on the earth manages their team and roster and service time like y'all are pretending is the only way to do it.
 
Oklahomabrave said:
Are you saying that as his ceiling? Fried's consistently great GB% give me hope he still has a number 3 starter ceiling, even though I agree with your previous assessment shows he isn't currently that.
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His ceiling is TOR starter if he adds some velocity, gets his change worked out, and improves his command.

However, he is ending his age 23 season. He is past the point most pitchers improve their stuff. Pitchers tend to lose velocity the moment they toe the rubber at the MLB level.

A #3 needs at least 3 average pitches, or 2 plus pitches with above average control. Fried isn't close to that.

His most likely outcome is a multi inning BP arm, or a LOOGY. That's what the Braves should plan on him being as they plot out their future plans.
 
sturg33 said:
I would have pulled up Swanson this year, in May at the earliest.

I would have pulled up Ozzie next year, in May at the earliest

I would have used off-days in April next year and call up Gohara in mid-April at the earliest

I would pull up Acuna in July next year at the earliest.

I don't care about Minter
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The only thing I don't agree with with Albies. He was more ready than Dansby last year and it just happened that he was promoted at the right time. He had over a year experience at AAA.
 
Enscheff said:
His ceiling is TOR starter if he adds some velocity, gets his change worked out, and improves his command.

However, he is ending his age 23 season. He is past the point most pitchers improve their stuff. Pitchers tend to lose velocity the moment they toe the rubber at the MLB level.

A #3 needs at least 3 average pitches, or 2 plus pitches with above average control. Fried isn't close to that.

His most likely outcome is a multi inning BP arm, or a LOOGY. That's what the Braves should plan on him being as they plot out their future plans.
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Yes and no. He hadn't been healthy enough to show he can't be more. An uninterrupted season besides rookie ball would be nice. I think he settles into a 3/4 but your point makes sense.
 
Enscheff said:
His ceiling is TOR starter if he adds some velocity, gets his change worked out, and improves his command.

However, he is ending his age 23 season. He is past the point most pitchers improve their stuff. Pitchers tend to lose velocity the moment they toe the rubber at the MLB level.

His most likely outcome is a multi inning BP arm, or a LOOGY. That's what the Braves should plan on him being as they plot out their future plans.
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You may well be right in your assessment, but it's important to remember that Fried missed one entire season and about 90% of another in the minors due to his elbow issues and was very inconsistent this season due to blister problems. That might have dinged his command. I was somewhat surprised they leapfrogged him over High A this past season. I think command will be the key for him and that's the key for about 75% of pitchers. I think he has the raw stuff to be a starter if his command improves.
 
Not sure if I agree with him coming up now or not... but man am I excited to see Gohara tonight. IMO, he's the pitching prospect that has the highest ceiling IMO. If he can reach close to his ceiling, it helps our rebuild so much.
 
Radar looks ugly. Even after this cell passes, there's more in Alabama and Mississippi that will just hit Atlanta later.

They may as well call it and do a day-night doubleheader tomorrow.
 
WaitingFor2017 said:
Radar looks ugly. Even after this cell passes, there's more in Alabama and Mississippi that will just hit Atlanta later.

They may as well call it and do a day-night doubleheader tomorrow.
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Actually, its moving at a pretty good clip and after this line moves through, the rain is slowly dissipating behind it and is not very heavy in the first place. It all depends on how patient they want to be, but I think they likely get the game in. The heavier stuff in AL/MS will be well south of Atlanta by the time it moves into GA.
 
zbhargrove said:
Actually, its moving at a pretty good clip and after this line moves through, the rain is slowly dissipating behind it and is not very heavy in the first place. It all depends on how patient they want to be, but I think they likely get the game in.
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You're the weather expert. I'll trust you.
 
Thought we would get this one in until the second line of storms developed. The rain should stop very soon at the park but we may only have an hour or so before the next line gets there. I'm not as bullish in getting this one in now.
 
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