Govt. Shutdown

I hope the govt workers are enjoying their paid vacation... I sure am confused why I'm not seeing a bigger pay check tomorrow...
 
57Brave said:
this was all about teaching people how to manage their money?
I'm confused -- I thought it was about defunding and repealing Obamacare

I think there are only like, 15 people left in the universe that think this shutdown is / was a good idea. My problem is, they all seem to be Braves fans
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Well, you don't think very well then. I never said it was a good idea nor did I say it was all about teaching people how to manage money (can't believe someone actually interpreted it that way). There certainly are those who are effected, but not as many as you probably think. I just said it isn't as horrific as some of you think it is. And I think I'm right about that. In the end it will largely be forgotten when it is over.
 
The government workers will get back pay and essentially a free vacation, woe is them.
 
BTW what a shock that Speaker White flag and company cave on a Friday night. Hilarious and predictable.
 
Serious question:

Are there provisions in the constitution where the Senate wrests power from the House?
Visa versa?
 
i hope weso is right about a last minute deal

not really sure why we have to make a deal to do this

but whatever
 
Even if they don't reach a deal Obama won't let the US default. Unless he's just the worst President ever, which I don't think he's that bad. But they'll reach a deal shortly after if they go past the deadline. I think they still have several weeks before an actual default would occur.

It's just negotiation. It's what they do. The fearmongering is a part of it. What the republicans are asking for now is extremely reasonable. I think most Americans would support the GOP's latest offer if they cared to know what it was. I don't really get what's wrong with negotiating, but some people can't stand the heat.

People will get all worked up over it next time too, but they'll always raise the debt ceiling before default or before we get too far into default. They have no choice.
 
I think debt ceilings are hilarious.

They would only matter if our leadership respected them. Why even call it a ceiling?
 
weso1 said:
Even if they don't reach a deal Obama won't let the US default. Unless he's just the worst President ever, which I don't think he's that bad. But they'll reach a deal shortly after if they go past the deadline. I think they still have several weeks before an actual default would occur.

It's just negotiation. It's what they do. The fearmongering is a part of it. What the republicans are asking for now is extremely reasonable. I think most Americans would support the GOP's latest offer if they cared to know what it was. I don't really get what's wrong with negotiating, but some people can't stand the heat.

People will get all worked up over it next time too, but they'll always raise the debt ceiling before default or before we get too far into default. They have no choice.
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I don't know what the republican's latest offer is because even they can't agree with it haha. Only hope the Rs have is for the Senate to pass a deal that the house dems will almost unanimously vote for the centric reps will vote for.
 
"What the republicans are asking for now is extremely reasonable."
Really?

Even Republicans don't think their requests are reasonable. Let alone "extremely reasonable"
 
57Brave said:
"What the republicans are asking for now is extremely reasonable."
Really?

Even Republicans don't think "Tea Party Pubs" requests are reasonable. Let alone "extremely reasonable"
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The "Reply With Quote" button on your lower right works extremely well. Don't be scared, it won't bite.

And I fixed it for you.
 
57Brave said:
"What the republicans are asking for now is extremely reasonable."
Really?

Even Republicans don't think their requests are reasonable. Let alone "extremely reasonable"
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lol... you and zito are such insufferable homers. All Boehner is basically asking for now is that the law applies to everyone equally. It's a reasonable proposal. Yeah it's true that some republicans don't like it, because it's such a great deal for the dems.

Reid's terms are much more unreasonable. He's asking for multiple things on top of no fixes to issues in Obamacare.
 
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with any of it. Just saying Republicans aren't finding Republican plans reasonable.
Fox News reports - National Review articles and WSJ editorials agree with that statement
Not sure what that has to do with homer or jerseys or whatever.

If anything is learned by the right from the last election and even their skewed projections over the shutdown it should be. There are facts and denying facts in favor of opinion is not productive.

Wow, kinda goes back to evolution and climate change. Ones opinion is not equal to data.
 
I'm not disagreeing with your facts. I added perspective which you ignore as per usual. You're essentially saying that because tea party pubs hate the deal it makes the deal unreasonable. Quite a turn around for you. Look at the offer and tell me what's unreasonable.
 
Looks like the senate reached a deal and we get to do the fearmongering all over again in a few months. The debt ceiling is the biggest charade of all time.
 
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