Harang
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Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I think he will get a 2/15 deal with a third-year option, something like ten million with a two million buyout.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Someone put up the thread at the end of spring training when Freddy Garcia was released in favor of Harang.
I think it's all about the aesthetic with Harang. His WHIP is pretty much his career norm and he out-pitched it to some extent. The big thing is that he threw a lot of quality innings. I wouldn't be surprised to see him back on a reasonable deal. He's good at the back end of the rotation. Another one of those guys for whom if you put reasonable expectations upon him, you likely won't be disappointed. I will be curious to see what level of interest there will be for him.
I think it's all about the aesthetic with Harang. His WHIP is pretty much his career norm and he out-pitched it to some extent. The big thing is that he threw a lot of quality innings. I wouldn't be surprised to see him back on a reasonable deal. He's good at the back end of the rotation. Another one of those guys for whom if you put reasonable expectations upon him, you likely won't be disappointed. I will be curious to see what level of interest there will be for him.
TomahawkCult
Arizona Fall Leaguer
I was a big Chief fan, loved how he stood in the breech in the NLDS. I hate he got released*, but Harang has done all that was asked and more.
* Pure conjecture here, but it seemed to me at the time that Something Happened between the Braves and Garcia when he was away for the birth of his child. All water under the bridge now, and I'm glad we have Harang.
* Pure conjecture here, but it seemed to me at the time that Something Happened between the Braves and Garcia when he was away for the birth of his child. All water under the bridge now, and I'm glad we have Harang.
NinersSBChamps
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br> 2015 (Co-Winner)</BR>20
He pitched admirably and even more so when you consider the circumstances. That being said I'd be weary of relying on him again next season.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
People talk about the offense but replacing 400+ solid innings from Erv/Harang will be hard as hell to replace with little money available.
NinersSBChamps
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br> 2015 (Co-Winner)</BR>20
Yep. Imagine if Erv and Harang don't pitch as well as they did.
This team would be staring at 90 plus losses.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Yep. That's what I addressed in the Pitching Staff thread. I think it's very doable.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
#1 on the to-do list for 2015. There's no one in the upper minors who is either ready or would likely be able to pitch 200 innings even if they were.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Harang's contributions have been enormous and I'm grateful for what he did for the team this year.
There is one small detail that makes me think we should probably pass in terms of bringing him back. The 6.4% HR/fly ball ratio. This is well below the 10.2% that he has posted for his career. Sure much of that is from his years with the Reds. But even in a neutral ballpark like Turner field, that's not a number that is going to be repeated. The 4.03 xFIP is a fairer representation of his work this season. Santana by the way has put up 3.47 xFIP (good for 26th among qualifying major league pitchers) and 3.39 FIP this year. Making a qualifying offer seems like the obvious move with him.
There is one small detail that makes me think we should probably pass in terms of bringing him back. The 6.4% HR/fly ball ratio. This is well below the 10.2% that he has posted for his career. Sure much of that is from his years with the Reds. But even in a neutral ballpark like Turner field, that's not a number that is going to be repeated. The 4.03 xFIP is a fairer representation of his work this season. Santana by the way has put up 3.47 xFIP (good for 26th among qualifying major league pitchers) and 3.39 FIP this year. Making a qualifying offer seems like the obvious move with him.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Yeah. We need to let him move on and wish him the best.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The dietary angle is an under-explored aspect of the team's collapse.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I think Harang and Laird explored it thoroughly.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
With cataclysmic consequences for the rest of the team. My understanding is that Gattis missed the last month of the season due to starvation. The whole strep throad/kidney stones thing was a cover. Simmons has looked rather emaciated of late was well.
A better manager would have imposed mandatory rationing.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I think Fredi joined them in their culinary expedition.