He’s Old School. He Doesn’t Do Analytics. And He’s Thriving In Today’s MLB

I think you guys are writing off the Mets way too easily. Not that they’re a very good team, but there’s not much of a gap between the three. Braves are the best team though, but let’s see if the results bear that out the rest of the way.
 
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Eh...they play the Dodgers and Giants for 13 straight games. If they about break even over that stretch I'll be worried about them
 
CyYoung31 said:
I think you guys are writing off the Mets way too easily. Not that they’re a very good team, but there’s not much of a gap between the three. Braves are the best team though, but let’s see if the results bear that out the rest of the way.
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Mets upcoming schedule:
Dodgers x3
At giants x3
At dodgers x4
Giants x3

Let's see where they are after this stretch
 
CyYoung31 said:
I think you guys are writing off the Mets way too easily. Not that they’re a very good team, but there’s not much of a gap between the three. Braves are the best team though, but let’s see if the results bear that out the rest of the way.
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It's funny because it's the Mets. But yes it's basically a coin flip between the 3 teams.
 
But with Soler, Duvall, Pederson, this is a different team. The team that broke camp and for the six weeks or so just had that all we had to do to win was show up vibe. The Acuna injury served as a splash of cold water to galvanize this group and the additions have worked better than expected.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Braves have the exact same schedule, plus the Padres at the end of September.
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Braves have already played the Dodgers 3 times though. The Braves biggest hurdle IMO was coming out of the all-star break and they managed that pretty damn well considering they just lost their MVP. Braves schedule is pretty damn easy the rest of the way.
 
He's overperformed expectations since he was named as manager, outside of maybe this season, and that caveat is fading fast. He knows how to run a clubhouse. He may be bad at tactical decisions, but how much does that play into running a good clubhouse?
 
weso1 said:
He's overperformed expectations since he was named as manager, outside of maybe this season, and that caveat is fading fast. He knows how to run a clubhouse. He may be bad at tactical decisions, but how much does that play into running a good clubhouse?
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Good question. Has there ever been an in-depth article about how players feel about how analytics factor into in-game decisions? I've known a few big-time athletes and they are loathe to admit that they have any kind of weakness.
 
The human side of that article is incredible (which was the point of reading it, the author wasn’t make any grand statement against analytics).

Snit is phenomenally flawed as a tactician and I do question whether his people skills are as effective with Latin players. But his story is incredible and he’s definitely earned his job as manager (and ultimately his results have been spectacular even if his process is flawed).

At the end of the day, the manager does not make much of a difference at all. Even the worst platoon decision only makes a 10% difference (.200 avg vs .300 avg) and even Snit gets this right most of the time, so I don’t think there’s any possible way he cost the team even close to 5 wins (and if managers did make that much of a difference they wouldn’t be paid less than a 4th outfielder).
 
It's clear that Snit is loved by the players, while also at the same time a flawed tactician. But if you have a manager that players are willing to run through a wall for, that certainly has to count for something, because it motivates them to go the extra mile.

I know that Gabe Kapler is now having success in San Fran this year somehow?? However, you saw how his act as an analytical genius, but demanding robot around his players didn't work in Philly.
 
This narrative that players play harder for a manager is as archaic as the old twit we have running this team. Why would a players desire to win be dictated by some bafoon making a bunch of bad decisions. Kapler’s failures were part due to a horrible pen, weak bench and some average starters.

Our team would be more successful with a better manager and everyone would play just as hard.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
This narrative that players play harder for a manager is as archaic as the old twit we have running this team. Why would a players desire to win be dictated by some bafoon making a bunch of bad decisions. Kapler’s failures were part due to a horrible pen, weak bench and some average starters.

Our team would be more successful with a better manager and everyone would play just as hard.
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It's not that they play harder for a particular manager, but that they don't play/work as hard for one they don't like, or at least one that they don't respect.
 
NYCBrave said:
It's clear that Snit is loved by the players, while also at the same time a flawed tactician. But if you have a manager that players are willing to run through a wall for, that certainly has to count for something, because it motivates them to go the extra mile.

I know that Gabe Kapler is now having success in San Fran this year somehow?? However, you saw how his act as an analytical genius, but demanding robot around his players didn't work in Philly.
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Kapler is a clear example of how irrelevant a manager is. He was never to blame for Philly’s horrible depth issues they had nor is he responsible Zaidi’s ability to find hidden gems.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
This narrative that players play harder for a manager is as archaic as the old twit we have running this team. Why would a players desire to win be dictated by some bafoon making a bunch of bad decisions. Kapler’s failures were part due to a horrible pen, weak bench and some average starters.

Our team would be more successful with a better manager and everyone would play just as hard.
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Players simply don’t need much motivation when million dollar contracts are at stake.

I do, however, think a good manager helps a player relax and not stress about losing playing time during a slump.
 
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