Heyman: Braves inquired on Lucroy

It's nice that things have bounced beneficially for the new-old regime thus far, but I think it's a bit too early to unequivocally assert that.

Based on the history of the men in charge plus having Roy Clark running things on the scouting side I'm fairly comfortable in saying that.

Braves aced every single big trade they made. There is a reason why that is.
 
Lets not forget that this guy was a top 10 prospect. He has not been healthy. At any point it can click for a guy like that. I'm waiting it out to see how he performs and if this continues all year then I'm keeping him.

I doubt they keep Maybin heading into the new ballpark and block Smith in CF going forward. They seem really high on Smith and I can see why.
 
I doubt they keep Maybin heading into the new ballpark and block Smith in CF going forward. They seem really high on Smith and I can see why.

I think the plan is to move Maybin to RF unless a big FA acquisition is made or a trade. I really believe in what I've seen so far. Maybin CRUSHES the ball when he hits it and knows how to work a count. I love those things.
 
CF is covered by Mallex, imo.

Perhaps. I'm not willing to hitch all my horses to him. Maybe doing something like signing Jason who can play CF or RF would be th eway to go but I just am not willing to put all it all on Mallex Smith yet.
 
NO team is going to sign Jason to be a CF or even partime center fielder. Thats not going to happen.
 
Based on the history of the men in charge plus having Roy Clark running things on the scouting side I'm fairly comfortable in saying that.

Braves aced every single big trade they made. There is a reason why that is.

Again: early results have been encouraging, but I think it's much too early to unequivocally assert that, as well.
 
I think they will regardless how much we here like him. I like him but Zeets is right about his track record and the Braves could use that 8 million or so to fill other needs too.

And that's the biggest reason to do it. 9 million dollars is freed up if we move him this offseason. If we move him at the deadline it would be something like 11 million. That's enough to get us a solid reliever for a few years. and we get the prospect in return. If Maybin falters adn we don't trade him we're on the hook for all that money.
 
And that's the biggest reason to do it. 9 million dollars is freed up if we move him this offseason. If we move him at the deadline it would be something like 11 million. That's enough to get us a solid reliever for a few years. and we get the prospect in return. If Maybin falters adn we don't trade him we're on the hook for all that money.

And if hte player they trade for sucks and Maybin moves on to finally reach his potential we are kicking ourselves in the ass.

There are always two sides to look at. I like what we are seeing from Maybin.
 
Same K rate as Michael Bourne give or take. Mallex is having a better AA season than Bourne did at the same age.

It's not insurmountable but it is worrisome. It looks like Mallex will become a slightly better hitter and faster with worse defense in comparison to Bourne.
 
And if hte player they trade for sucks and Maybin moves on to finally reach his potential we are kicking ourselves in the ass.

There are always two sides to look at. I like what we are seeing from Maybin.

As a betting man, I would bet we wouldn't be kicking ourselves. Maybin is getting older. His speed is falling, he won't magically get healthier (that stuff is banned) he's gonna fall into the same general patterns. I was hoping a few years ago Maybin would develop into kind of a lite version of Mike Cameron, but he hasn't been able to do that. You're right he's had injury issues, only 2 seasons over 100 games, only 1 over 140, but why expect that to change? Why expect fairy dust to be sprinkled on him and he's all of th esudden healthy and productive? Sorry but you have to play baseball as an odds game. 9 times out of 10 it works out when you trade a pitcher, and 99 times out of 100 it works out when you trade a talentely player who's "putting it together" in their late 20s. There haven't been a ton of late 20s boomers for a reason.
 
I personally just like Maybin. I generally agree with everyone that it's logical to trade him, but I would be slightly disappointed.
 
Lucroy would be a stupid good pickup. I wouldn't trade Shelby, Teheran, Freeman, or Simmons but anyone else is fair game. If we could do Wood+ for him and upgrade at LF this offseason we could compete next year.
 
And then you can move Maybin to RF and Markakis to LF.

Once Peterson is ready then Markakis is the 4th OF bench rah rah guy.

I think we'll sign a FA outfielder, and/or trade for one with the assets they have to cover the outfield spots depending if they trade Maybin.
 
And that's the biggest reason to do it. 9 million dollars is freed up if we move him this offseason. If we move him at the deadline it would be something like 11 million. That's enough to get us a solid reliever for a few years. and we get the prospect in return. If Maybin falters adn we don't trade him we're on the hook for all that money.

That's a fair argument, but if he continues to perform as he has I am in no hurry to see him go. I find him a very likable player personally but I try to be realistic about what makes the most sense long term too.
 
If Maybin is legit, I'm taking him over Mallex. Over 150 games at this pace he'd be a 18 HR guy with 25 steals...probably hit 250-260 but I've always loved Maybin and if he can be this guy, I don't want to move him because of "a lesser Michael Bourn"
 
Regarding Maybin.

They have 66 mil in payroll next year, and thats with guys like Cahill, CJ, Grilli who are gone.

At least Cahill who frees up 12-13 mil.

Grilli could be dealt at the deadline as well.

Money aspect isnt much of an issue right now.
 
Regarding Maybin.

They have 66 mil in payroll next year, and thats with guys like Cahill, CJ, Grilli who are gone.

At least Cahill who frees up 12-13 mil.

Grilli could be dealt at the deadline as well.

Money aspect isnt much of an issue right now.
Our pre-arb/option payroll for next year is 53.669
Obviously we won't pick up Cahill's option, we likely won't pick up Gomes's

We may not pickup the arb tab on Minor, EYJ, and Outman, we may trade Avilan instead of taking his arb tag, we'll have Miller just hitting arb and if he keeps this up he'll get paid in arby. WE will certainly have a lot of cash to play with. But I'd rather get someone for Maybin before he collapses than spend another 9M on him. I'm pragmatic, I'm ignoring the emotional aspect. I remember Maybin coming up being compared to Griffey, all the talent in the world .He hasn't panned out. He hasn't been able to stay healthy. If someone offers us a B rated prospect for Maybin we better say yes. If someone offers us a C rated prospect we have to consider it.

Money is always an issue, especially as a rebuilding team. Imagine we trade Maybin, use his money to keep Minor who rebuilds his value and he nets us a decent prospect, we have then turned someone who was just salary considerations into 2 prospects. Of course that's an example that may not happen in either part, just listing something that could happen with a decent probability.
 
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