Hillary in trouble?

BedellBrave said:
Can we stop with the whole 'the black (or African American) community' line as if any racial group is monolithically the same?
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Well when they keep voting against their conservative conscience, I think our race is inheritantly stupid and reliant on whites to live (welfare) or succeed (Affirmative Actions - myth but it is out there for the PC). As long as the Demodogs marched out with these two programs, our race is going to follow this carrot. So I disagree with you on this Bethel, that nomenclature is us African-Americans, people that are slaved to the Democrat party because we need their kindness in providing sustenance for our well being and turn their heads when we do ungodly deeds. We have our leaders but they preach the wrong message of blame whitey when those whites are Dems and racism, not preaching about manning up up and uplifting, being a dad, stay in school, keep your job and strive be harder. Funny that Republican blacks preach this and they get drowned in boos. Why?
 
BedellBrave said:
Can we stop with the whole 'the black (or African American) community' line as if any racial group is monolithically the same?
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How about "crowd" as in " The Black Crowd"

One had to be impressed how The National Review used the generalization -stereotype
 
AerchAngel said:
seriuosly....what part of preaching abstinence, responsibility, stop the crime, shootings, muggins, car jacking and things like that. We do not need more welfare, that is the problem and why they vote Democrat.
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Where did all that come from and what does it have to do with me?

AerchAngel said:
The Democrats do not want them to be enlightened, they lose votes because most blacks are anti-gay, anti-abortion bible thumpers, ie BAPTISTS and they cannot lose their voting block. To keep us dumb and uninformed, they are not going to say anything to lose that block.

We do not need handouts, we need a strong voice for our people that is what we say in the Baptist church as "UP LIFTING".
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You think the Republicans want to properly fund education? And have an educated Black population? Good luck.

So you want Obama to be a better voice for your people. That's all? He's given the top ten speeches on race ever by a sitting president. He's said things no other President has and people have been listening. Why do you think there has been this backlash against Blacks in the form of more police attacks against Blacks? He was the first one to use the word "racism" in an Inaugural Address, and did it several times. If it's a voice you want, he's been a good one.

I guess you want him to do more of it. Well, like I mentioned at the beginning of this back and forth, he's got a lot of other things to do and besides, if he spent too much time on the subject it would create an even bigger backlash.
 
Runnin said:
Where did all that come from and what does it have to do with me?

You think the Republicans want to properly fund education? And have an educated Black population? Good luck.

So you want Obama to be a better voice for your people. That's all? He's given the top ten speeches on race ever by a sitting president. He's said things no other President has and people have been listening. Why do you think there has been this backlash against Blacks in the form of more police attacks against Blacks? He was the first one to use the word "racism" in an Inaugural Address, and did it several times. If it's a voice you want, he's been a good one.

I guess you want him to do more of it. Well, like I mentioned at the beginning of this back and forth, he's got a lot of other things to do and besides, if he spent too much time on the subject it would create an even bigger backlash.
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Then why BET and NAACP say he is a farce. I never heard these speeches.....well I wouldn't listen to any more of his lies anyway.

But keep thinking that, you want us under your boot and he is laughing at us calling us suckers. He is not what we thought he was.

And for your last sentence, that is why we still have a problem, you really don't care, it help the whites, not the blacks. He could be a monumental president in our history to help blacks out of poverty by speaking to black men and for them to do something with yourselves and not make the situation worse, which is. You say he is afraid of backlash? Really? He smoothly shook off all comers so why would helping our race be a backlash? He helped Wall Street, he helped CEO's, he helped Muslim countries, but he just ignore the race that got him elected (more Hillary than Mitt).
 
AerchAngel said:
Then why BET and NAACP say he is a farce.
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Because they want to Black shame him into being their puppet and have no more class than those women rudely taking the microphone away from Bernie Sanders.

If you're listening to the BET and the NAACP, then that explains a lot. You've always portrayed yourself as being above the typical race diatribe. Since when did you join Jessie and Al Sharpton?
 
Runnin said:
Because they want to Black shame him into being their puppet and have no more class than those women rudely taking the microphone away from Bernie Sanders.

If you're listening to the BET and the NAACP, then that explains a lot. You've always portrayed yourself as being above the typical race diatribe. Since when did you join Jessie and Al Sharpton?
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Nice try by switching it.

I always got on Obama about our race. We finally elect a black leader and he has done nothing, we've gotten worse.

So let me put this on you? If the president is going to ignore us, who can stop black men from making babies and making everyone pay for it. Who is going to force them to go to school and finish? Who is going to have them stop committing crimes. The president could at least go to these neighborhoods, appoint a committee to address but no, he rely on race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton and probably paying them in the process to stir up trouble when you whites get out of line. The biggest con/scam going on.

I know you have nothing but those votes because the Republicans would put a stop to this cons/scam, make blacks be responsible fathers and make them actually finish school by some form of discipline.

Why address something to make blacks smarter? More and more will leave the Democrat party and go to their true beliefs in Conservatism. You will NEVER and I mean EVER take religion from us.

You know what is troubling, white people like you that do not want to do a damn thing and I understand. It is control. Control the blacks, control the vote no matter how disruptive we are as a race in America. When a white do something to us, sic the media on the white cops. But when we have 50 blacks shot in one weekend, you better not say anything in the news, it is what it is.

That is troubling.
 
Hawk said:
As a bit of an aside, does anybody else here find the descriptor "blacks" uncomfortable?

I don't know if it's a product of being raised in a nauseatingly PC Southern enclave, but I always use either 'black people' or 'African-American' ...

It's a small thing, for example, I don't find the phrasing of 'black community' to be iffy -- but 'the thing about the blacks' type phrasing always makes me cringe.

Weird I know.
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When comparing races I say whites, blacks, hispanics, etc. Using African American isn't descriptive enough in regards to race sense technically some African Americans are indeed whites. I don't use the term black people because I'm lazy and that's too many letters, and I would never say white people. The word "blacks" makes you cringe only because of folks like Jessie Jackson who try to make you feel guilty because you are white.
 
weso1 said:
When comparing races I say whites, blacks, hispanics, etc. Using African American isn't descriptive enough in regards to race sense technically some African Americans are indeed whites. I don't use the term black people because I'm lazy and that's too many letters, and I would never say white people. The word "blacks" makes you cringe only because of folks like Jessie Jackson who try to make you feel guilty because you are white.
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It will never go away. Whites need a label to put on us.

I would love to say American but I am too angry to be considered anything other than a Mandingo who impregnated white women. I can't be controlled by the white masses.

Bulworth and Matrix III for the win.
 
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AerchAngel said:
Nice try by switching it.

I always got on Obama about our race. We finally elect a black leader and he has done nothing, we've gotten worse.

So let me put this on you? If the president is going to ignore us, who can stop black men from making babies and making everyone pay for it. Who is going to force them to go to school and finish? Who is going to have them stop committing crimes. The president could at least go to these neighborhoods, appoint a committee to address but no, he rely on race hustlers like Jackson and Sharpton and probably paying them in the process to stir up trouble when you whites get out of line. The biggest con/scam going on.

I know you have nothing but those votes because the Republicans would put a stop to this cons/scam, make blacks be responsible fathers and make them actually finish school by some form of discipline.

Why address something to make blacks smarter? More and more will leave the Democrat party and go to their true beliefs in Conservatism. You will NEVER and I mean EVER take religion from us.

You know what is troubling, white people like you that do not want to do a damn thing and I understand. It is control. Control the blacks, control the vote no matter how disruptive we are as a race in America. When a white do something to us, sic the media on the white cops. But when we have 50 blacks shot in one weekend, you better not say anything in the news, it is what it is.

That is troubling.
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I don't know why you're aiming your guns at me, Mandingo, I'm one of the few on here who'll be fighting on your side in the coming race war. Besides, I haven't had my coffee yet.
 
Here comes Joe? Does Biden get in now? I'd think now is the time for either or both of Biden and Warren to get in if they are going to...
 
Pretty sure the main plank of the Republican party is to prevent Hillary from being president. Their donors make it rain when they bring up Hillary potentially being president.
 
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