57Brave
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Since Sandy Hook in Dec. 2012, there have been at least 892 mass shootings http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook …
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Since Sandy Hook in Dec. 2012, there have been at least 892 mass shootings http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook …
keithlaw
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Since Sandy Hook in Dec. 2012, there have been at least 892 mass shootings http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook …
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bravos4evr
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Since Sandy Hook in Dec. 2012, there have been at least 892 mass shootings http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook …
lol, misleading claptrap. they don't even know how to define "mass shooting" it's like those amusing anti-smoking groups that state that any person who dies of cancer who has a family member who smokes is smoking related.
try harder and stop the confirmation bias and find unbiased sources.
BUT
even if it were true, and it isn't, we are a nation of 330+ million people spread over a vast area with loads of different ideas, creeds, religions...etc AND the freedom to move from place to place without big brother watching over us. so, duh, of course we will have this happen.
edit: oh , and you ignored the question and moved the goalposts, please explain why Norway and France have suffered worse gun attacks with their strict gun laws?
In all sincerity, please explain how making guns illegal (lol, good luck with that) would solve this problem. please, and in detail, no generalities.
striker42
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10,000 Americans die every year due to drunk driving. Even though the majority of those drinking do it recreationally and safely, we clearly need greater restrictions on access to alcohol. Just think how many lives would be saved if you don't allow alcohol to be consumed anywhere but the home.
Or better yet, let's ban alcohol all together! That's an idea that has never been tried before!
Or better yet, let's ban alcohol all together! That's an idea that has never been tried before!
bravesnumberone
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I just do not understand how it always has to be one thing. The narrative on the left is lack of fun control and homophobia. No one wants to talk about radical, distorted Islam being alive and well. The narrative on the right is it's all about the terrorists. Nobody wants to talk about how easy it was for this lunatic to get that weapon, especially when he was reportedly on the Feds' radar.
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
exactly!
For some reason we don't learn from the past in this country. Prohibition doesn't work. be it booze, drugs or guns. All you end up doing is increasing the amount of organized crime and creating criminals out of the working public.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
It's frustrating, especially because—in most cases—when looking at the causality of phenomena, if there's a "both," it usually is both. The degree may be weighted to one or the other, but if we can't even admit that more than one factor is at play, we never get anywhere.
Runnin
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The NRA applauded at that news.
Runnin
Well-known member
I see you've run into the fortune-teller.
BedellBrave
It's OVER 5,000!
Care to explain?
57Brave
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Connecticut’s senators, Democrats Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy, also put out blistering statements Sunday in response to the Orlando shooting, saying lawmakers’ inaction on gun control made them “complicit.”
“This phenomenon of near constant mass shootings happens only in America — nowhere else,” Murphy said. “Congress has become complicit in these murders by its total, unconscionable deafening silence. This doesn’t have to happen, but this epidemic will continue without end if Congress continues to sit on its hands and do nothing — again.”
“This phenomenon of near constant mass shootings happens only in America — nowhere else,” Murphy said. “Congress has become complicit in these murders by its total, unconscionable deafening silence. This doesn’t have to happen, but this epidemic will continue without end if Congress continues to sit on its hands and do nothing — again.”
It's excruciating for me to read that he was investigated numerous times by the FBI for potential terrorist ties yet was still allowed to purchase an assault rifle without any sort of systemic red flag being raised. I realize that we tread into choppy water when we discuss firearm purchase restrictions that skirt due process, but not unlike the situation with Dylann Roof in the Mother Emanuel shooting, it seems that we have long since reached the point where the belt needs to be tightened (perhaps putting it lightly) with respect to the purchase of assault rifles ... both in terms of legislation and technical oversight.
Runnin
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He said, "Beware of lightning that might strike."
cajunrevenge
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We should just ban cars altogether. Even when 100% sober thousands of people die a year from just bad driving.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I don't think that's not a solid analogy. There has been a significant crackdown on drunken driving over the past couple of decades and a corresponding reduction in the ratio of highway fatalities to the total population. I'm not calling for getting rid of guns (maybe 57 and some other are, but I am not), but I think some sensible steps can, and should, be taken relating to background checks and a higher standard of need for certain weapons. And I'd like to know how someone on the FBI watch list gets off the FBI watch list. Did he return a couple of overdue books to the public library?
Here is the graph on highway fatalities:
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Bill O'Reilly was on Colbert last night and they had a very good and positive exchange on the convergence of terrorism and domestic gun policy. I only watched the first installment, but both guys made good points in a positively-toned conversation.
57Brave
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After rushing to judgement and flailing the religion of over 3 billion people while extolling the virtues of Christianity we learn the shooter was anything but a jihadist but a confused bi -polar closeted homosexual with daddy issues.
With access to an AR-15.
There was a good guy with a gun. Reports are there was an armed off duty policeman used as a security guard that engaged in a gun fight with the perp
He was not born in "Afghan" but born in Queens.
Just like Donald Trump
The world wide outpouring of compassion for the victims is remarkable
Let the Mods shut this thread down so we can start talking about how we go about not allowing this **** to happen in our country.
Our country
With access to an AR-15.
There was a good guy with a gun. Reports are there was an armed off duty policeman used as a security guard that engaged in a gun fight with the perp
He was not born in "Afghan" but born in Queens.
Just like Donald Trump
The world wide outpouring of compassion for the victims is remarkable
Let the Mods shut this thread down so we can start talking about how we go about not allowing this **** to happen in our country.
Our country
Oklahomahawk
Boras' Client
There may have been incidents that I am not aware of, since I have not really watched either of them in a couple of years but I do remember from 3 or 4 years ago (something like that) that they really seem to get along pretty well, which is kinda surprising but for some reason those two just seem to "click" personality wise. I really think it's because Colbert has the ability to make O'Reilly laugh, something not many people can do.