Hollywood/Political Sex Offense Scandals (Now Louis CK and AL-GOPSenateNom Roy Moore)

Hawk said:
And Amazon.
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Ooof, tell me about it—this piece, just released today, details both Amazon's ever-growing scope and ever-growing labor nefariousness. And yet I simply don't have the disposable income to not shop with Amazon, at least for the at-minimum-twenty books I need to buy per semester. The used-and-local scene for books is pretty sad in Missoula, and I can't just drive to Boise (or even Spokane) every time I need something; the library, too, is in pretty sad shape with all the budget cuts and wildfire-fighting budgetary diversions (a far cry from the overcrowded library system of UChicago [$$$]). So unfortunately I'll keep keeping an eye on Amazon the only way I can afford: camelcamelcamel price-alerts.
 
Super said:
wait, there's chrome for iPhone? How?

I'm terrible with computer stuff.
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Google made an app? Seems like I recall finding it around the same time I had to download GoogleMaps because Apple foolishly booted it off native support in favor of the woefully ineffectual AppleMaps.
 
jpx7 said:
Ooof, tell me about it—this piece, just released today, details both Amazon's ever-growing scope and ever-growing labor nefariousness. And yet I simply don't have the disposable income to not shop with Amazon, at least for the at-minimum-twenty books I need to buy per semester. The used-and-local scene for books is pretty sad in Missoula, and I can't just drive to Boise (or even Spokane) every time I need something; the library, too, is in pretty sad shape with all the budget cuts and wildfire-fighting budgetary diversions (a far cry from the overcrowded library system of UChicago [$$$]). So unfortunately I'll keep keeping an eye on Amazon the only way I can afford: camelcamelcamel price-alerts.
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JP are you familiar with Library Genesis? It may fill some of the gaps for you if you just need to reference something that isn't available in the onsite library.
 
Et tu Franken?

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i guess we need to take down some statues of the forefathers cause you know, they had babies with slaves

i mean, **** it
 
Hawk said:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/15/16634776/clinton-lewinsky-resigned

Bill Clinton should have resigned

What he did to Monica Lewinsky was wrong, and he should have paid the price.

By: Matt Yglesias
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That editorial is one of the most absurd things I’ve read. Bill didn’t even have to try with Monica. She practically threw herself at him and was proud of it until she got caught in the middle of the storm.

Personally I’m embarrassed by the feminists and progressives in my party. If they’re going to try to make everything men’s fault I have no use for them. I’ve had it up to my neck with social crusades. We need to get back to the economy and America’s role in the world.
 
That article is absolutely right. If we take accusations at face value we will be opening our leaders up to slander. Allegations must be proven not automatically believed and they will be made more lightly if proof is not required. All it will take to derail a Democrat will be an accusation because some on the left want to take anything a woman says at face value.

Frankly I think Juanita Broderick was most likely a liar dug up by the Republicans to discredit Clinton.
 
Hawk said:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/15/16634776/clinton-lewinsky-resigned

Bill Clinton should have resigned
What he did to Monica Lewinsky was wrong, and he should have paid the price.

By: Matt Yglesias
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Hawk said:
I Believe Juanita

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/opinion/juanita-broaddrick-bill-clinton.html
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Hawk said:
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I can't help feeling very cynical about the timing of the Left's turn on WJC. Very cynical.
 
Politicians be politicians.

But I think there are some common sense things as a society that we can uphold. I don't think every accusation should be taken at face value. You weigh things like whether there are multiple accusers (victims) with a similar story that reveals a pattern. There is sometimes corroborating evidence. Being banned from the mall, the YMCA and the local library in Moore's case. Pictures in Al Franken's case. While not completely equivalent, I think both cases are pretty bad. I think voters in Alabama and Minnesota need to give a lot of weight to these revelations. A lot. To me personally, the behavior in both cases rises to the level of being disqualifying as far as voting someone into public office goes. And the Senate as an institution needs to take a strong stance against the individuals involved.

Btw the Menendez case is another one where I think behavior was revealed that is disqualifying as far as voting someone into public office. It might not have been enough to get a conviction in the court of law. But I think the standards there are different from the ones voters should have when putting someone into office. And I think the Senate as an institution has to take a strong stand in this case as well.
 
The YMCA/mall stuff is hearsay evidence. I guess most of the people were that were in actual decision-making/administrative positions are dead now. I wish that somebody could get J.D Thomas on record - at the very least for some clarification. He won't answer questions, supposedly.

For example:

Delores Abney, 63, a retired domestic violence counselor, said she and her husband had heard things about Roy Moore and his interest in younger women for years.

On Monday night, Ms. Abney said she recalled Mr. Moore, the embattled Republican Senate candidate, being a regular presence in the mid-1980s at the Y.M.C.A. There, she said, he was often talking to much younger women — women that “appeared to be high school on up,” she said — in an exercise class she was enrolled in. “I’m not saying he was trying to pick them up. It just did not look appropriate.”

You'll find similar language in the New Yorker piece.
 
i will say, i will start taking criticism from the religious right and the family values party a little more seriously about the fake groping from Al (a totally inappropriate picture btw) when they stop voting for the likes of moore and trump

it really falls on deaf ears to me
 
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