How much do conservatives hate POTUS?

KeithLockhart said:
Bush was only liked internationally by the UK... not many leaders were that fond of him. You have to remember he dragged in pretty much most of our allies into Iraq (albeit they were small coalitions unlike the UK who had a bigger commitment).

BO 44 may have foreign leaders that don't like him, but his popularity worldwide amongst the people is almost on par with Clinton. Maybe in the extreme Middle East he's not well liked, but he's actually very well liked by the Israeli people, even if it means Netanyahu isn't his biggest fan because he hasn't bent over for Israel.
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And Obamination spied on them and got caught. Tapping their phones. THat is far worse.

I wish the first president of the US that was black was a Conservative, because he wouldn't effed up as much as Obama. Everyone hates him now, even the media is turning on him. Heck, at work we can't even go to any site that has the word "Obama" in it, that is how messed up it is. THe only word that is banned. You can put the "N" word or any cuss word, not even banned. I wish our race would disown him, he makes all of us look bad.
 
Well atleast Ron Paul isnt president. Bringing the troops home, not have the NSA spy on your communications, no Obamacare, actually having a fiscally sane government budget, and not attacking countries that didnt attack us. Thank god we didnt have to live through that nightmare.

You can complain about Obama all you want but McCain and Romney would have been just as bad. But lets keep voting in status quo candidates, eventually they will stop sucking right?
 
cajunrevenge said:
You can complain about Obama all you want but McCain and Romney would have been just as bad. But lets keep voting in status quo candidates, eventually they will stop sucking right?
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Dude, you need to quit talking sense like this, you'll become a pariah around here. :eusa_clap:

Oh and while I forget who posted it previously but why can so many people still not see that old man Gepetto is STILL running this country. The strings are incredibly obvious if you are just willing to see them.
 
What are you calling status quo?

Because I've seen an awful lot of"status quo" go by the wayside the past few years
 
cajunrevenge said:
Well atleast Ron Paul isnt president. Bringing the troops home, not have the NSA spy on your communications, no Obamacare, actually having a fiscally sane government budget, and not attacking countries that didnt attack us. Thank god we didnt have to live through that nightmare.

You can complain about Obama all you want but McCain and Romney would have been just as bad. But lets keep voting in status quo candidates, eventually they will stop sucking right?
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McSame I would agree, Romney is a Democrat, so you are probably right. I don't think he would have this many gaffs and have the world hate us, but he would suck as a president.

Democrats and Republicans are a bunch of idiots and then there are Libertarians, not far behind them. As Okie Hawk said Gepetto is still in charge and people like Steak Sauce will follow his party no matter how stupid they do things and look while doing it.
 
Oh man, I came in this thread thinking there would be substance in the answer.

But instead I got " Because he is kinda black". This isn't the 1960's at an all white southern college. That reasoning is just lazy...
 
Tapate50 said:
Oh man, I came in this thread thinking there would be substance in the answer.

But instead I got " Because he is kinda black". This isn't the 1960's at an all white southern college. That reasoning is just lazy...
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Yeah, racists put more effort in being subtle about their beliefs these days. Unless you go visit extended family, or people at your workplace know that there isn't a black person in the office. Then 1960s rolls right back out.
 
cajunrevenge said:
You can complain about Obama all you want but McCain and Romney would have been just as bad. But lets keep voting in status quo candidates, eventually they will stop sucking right?
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I don't necessarily think "Ron Paul" is the answer to this question, but I very much agree with the general sentiment.
 
Tapate50 said:
Oh man, I came in this thread thinking there would be substance in the answer.

But instead I got " Because he is kinda black". This isn't the 1960's at an all white southern college. That reasoning is just lazy...
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Trolls gonna troll.
 
the reaction to wiretapping foreign leaders is so weird to me when it is compared to the reaction of wiretapping the citizens

anyway

Stewart broke down why all of that went down without anyone in Congress or the President knowing cause between W and O and then Congress, they passed the laws that allowed the NSA to do it
 
great, a bunch of replies thinking that racism is dead in this country and that a way larger than should be part of the base does hate him cause he is black is ignored

both sides of that argument have truths in them

he is without a doubt the most disrespected president by the other side of the aisle i have ever seen. i don't know why that is but it is

and i am not talking about the voting base when i say that, i am saying actual congressmen
 
goldfly said:
great, a bunch of replies thinking that racism is dead in this country and that a way larger than should be part of the base does hate him cause he is black is ignored

both sides of that argument have truths in them

he is without a doubt the most disrespected president by the other side of the aisle i have ever seen. i don't know why that is but it is

and i am not talking about the voting base when i say that, i am saying actual congressmen
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That's kind of the point I was making...

The first part and second part are not mutually exclusive. Now I'm not saying every Conservative thinks that way, but we already had one poster here say that's what's discussed amongst his friends.

I've never seen a President tthis disrespected and hated this much ever, and I'm sure we've never had a President have this much conspiracy theories started on him before and have had as many snopes pages before.
 
I'm not convinced the premise is true. The OP needs to prove the premise before I try and argue the reasoning behind a potentially flawed premise.
 
In answer to the OP, a lot, but hate is probably the wrong word. I actually think they hated Clinton a lot and if the economy hadn't been booming through the 1990s, there would have been even more vitriol. I do think that a lot of folks have pre-conceived notions about Obama that aren't really true, but I don't know if that dissonance reaches the level of true hate, at least for most.

At the same time, I didn't think much of Bush and Cheney, but I thought my friends to the left of me (and I am left-of-center) really went over the line a lot in their criticism of W. I don't know if one can go over the line with Cheney and his neocon posse, but even the criticism of that crowd got unnecessarily petty.
 
50PoundHead said:
In answer to the OP, a lot, but hate is probably the wrong word. I actually think they hated Clinton a lot and if the economy hadn't been booming through the 1990s, there would have been even more vitriol. I do think that a lot of folks have pre-conceived notions about Obama that aren't really true, but I don't know if that dissonance reaches the level of true hate, at least for most.

At the same time, I didn't think much of Bush and Cheney, but I thought my friends to the left of me (and I am left-of-center) really went over the line a lot in their criticism of W. I don't know if one can go over the line with Cheney and his neocon posse, but even the criticism of that crowd got unnecessarily petty.
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Hollywood\Media was VERY aggressive to W. Short memory is the main story here.

Very easy to forget Michael Moore and his crusades I guess.
 
50PoundHead said:
In answer to the OP, a lot, but hate is probably the wrong word. I actually think they hated Clinton a lot and if the economy hadn't been booming through the 1990s, there would have been even more vitriol. I do think that a lot of folks have pre-conceived notions about Obama that aren't really true, but I don't know if that dissonance reaches the level of true hate, at least for most.

At the same time, I didn't think much of Bush and Cheney, but I thought my friends to the left of me (and I am left-of-center) really went over the line a lot in their criticism of W. I don't know if one can go over the line with Cheney and his neocon posse, but even the criticism of that crowd got unnecessarily petty.
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We see what we want to see. When it's our team's guy, then the opposition is just the worst. When it is the other team's guy, it's "well he deserves it." Strong post 50.
 
Not a fan of Bush, but all the democrats did was bitch from day 1 because he "stole" the 2000 election.

To think that the republicans are the only people who whine when they don't get their way is astonishingly hypocritical.

But you are right, Obama is the best president ever. And you better not make legitimate criticisms of his policies, or you're a rayyyyyyycissssttttt
 
bravesnumberone said:
Not a fan of Bush, but all the democrats did was bitch from day 1 because he "stole" the 2000 election.

To think that the republicans are the only people who whine when they don't get their way is astonishingly hypocritical.

But you are right, Obama is the best president ever. And you better not make legitimate criticisms of his policies, or you're a rayyyyyyycissssttttt
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Yep. Part of being a good leader and President is being able to reach across the isle to get the job done.
 
Are folks in this thread actually implying that there weren't Democrats (elected officials) who bitched and moaned about Bush and ridiculed him?
 
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