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So predictable:

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She hasn't even been elected yet, and nonetheless what I said upthread is already coming to pass. However one feels about the true merits of elevating the mandated minimum wage, this is pretty clear evidence that Clinton's touted progressivism is little more than convenient lip-service.
 
jpx7 said:
So predictable:

[tw]773014485346848768[/tw]

She hasn't even been elected yet, and nonetheless what I said upthread is already coming to pass. However one feels about the true merits of elevating the mandated minimum wage, this is pretty clear evidence that Clinton's touted progressivism is little more than convenient lip-service.
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WAIT! Some in here were saying she was the most liberal person ever to run for President. This news item must be absolutely wrong!
 
50PoundHead said:
WAIT! Some in here were saying she was the most liberal person ever to run for President. This news item must be absolutely wrong!
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In the late 50's and early 60's the Phillies -Reds and a few AL teams had a pitcher named Johnny Klipstein - - wonder if J's undated unquoted source is related.

Yankee's too I think. Might have even gotten a World Series appearance
 
You see, one candidate, George W. Bush, was dishonest in a way that was unprecedented in U.S. politics. Most notably, he proposed big tax cuts for the rich while insisting, in raw denial of arithmetic, that they were targeted for the middle class. These campaign lies presaged what would happen during his administration — an administration that, let us not forget, took America to war on false pretenses.

Yet throughout the campaign most media coverage gave the impression that Mr. Bush was a bluff, straightforward guy, while portraying Al Gore — whose policy proposals added up, and whose critiques of the Bush plan were completely accurate — as slippery and dishonest. Mr. Gore’s mendacity was supposedly demonstrated by trivial anecdotes, none significant, some of them simply false. No, he never claimed to have invented the internet. But the image stuck.

And right now I and many others have the sick, sinking feeling that it’s happening again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/05/op...ored.html?_r=0
 
jpx7 said:
So predictable:

[tw]773014485346848768[/tw]

She hasn't even been elected yet, and nonetheless what I said upthread is already coming to pass. However one feels about the true merits of elevating the mandated minimum wage, this is pretty clear evidence that Clinton's touted progressivism is little more than convenient lip-service.
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Or, rather, that she's simply a duplicitous opportunist.
 
57Brave said:
In the late 50's and early 60's the Phillies -Reds and a few AL teams had a pitcher named Johnny Klipstein - - wonder if J's undated unquoted source is related.
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It's a screen-grab from her website.
 
Kurt Eichenwald ‏@kurteichenwald 3h
3 hours ago

I spent days reviewing Clinton Foundation IRS filings. And scandal I discovered is...nothing. They are helping millions around the world.

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Let me help you here:

Kurt Eichenwald
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Contributing editor, Vanity Fair; senior writer, Newsweek; New York Times bestselling author.
 
Kurt Eichenwald ‏@kurteichenwald 2h
2 hours ago

Of $242 mill raised by Clinton Foundation in last audited period, $218 mill went to program services. Thats better than Red Cross. Scandal!

Kurt Eichenwald ‏@kurteichenwald 3h
3 hours ago

A thing Clinton Foundation does: Fights worms. Bad ones. The kind that blind kids & infect billions. But no one cares because of BS scandal.

Kurt Eichenwald ‏@kurteichenwald 3h
3 hours ago

No one has showed that a dime went from Clinton Found to Clintons. (Official filings say they haven't.) But reporters keep saying "maybe..."
 
Kurt Eichenwald ‏@kurteichenwald 3h
3 hours ago

I am sick of listening to reporters speculating what MIGHT be true without being able to present any evidence. Folks, thats called opinion.

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Hawk said:
... because it's politically expedient ...

:-)
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“It offers a glimpse at the kind of machinations that went into shaping a candidate with national ambitions,” said Brigid Callahan Harrison, a professor of political science and law at Montclair State University. “Not just all of the kind of back-room inside politics that many people find really distasteful, but the enormous extent to which the administration would flex its muscles to paint Chris Christie as this candidate that had such broad appeal.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/07/n...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

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"Lock her up" Gov Christie led the chants.
No innuendo or " troubling appearance of inappropriateness."

Just raw/ arrogant abuse of office
To show the (R) kingmakers how big his dick was
What a strange bunch
 
What I find amusing is that people have already made their mind up about voting and also made their mind up about sHillary. No matter how many people she pays off or murdered, people knows she has no integrity and can't be trusted. People also no the Trump is not presidential material and bufoon. So if the Democrats on this board want to post numerous things on how sHillary is innocent, don't bother, the smart people know she has power, money and the goons to take care of any issues. Also they know that no amount of making Trump look like an idiot, because people know that he is already is. you will not change a person's mind no matter how much trouble you go into it.

I am not nor ever will vote for the two most of the worst candidates in US history. To vote for either is un-American, because neither represent what our nation is about but would show that felons and swindlers can make it to the top position of our country because of the stupidity of our two party system.
 
only a matter f time before the Big Dog weighs in

Christopher Heath ‏@CHeathWFTV 30m30 minutes ago

.@billclinton mocks Trump, says, "my charity helps people, his is used to pay off your attorney general"
 
57Brave said:
only a matter f time before the Big Dog weighs in

Christopher Heath ‏@CHeathWFTV 30m30 minutes ago

.@billclinton mocks Trump, says, "my charity helps people, his is used to pay off your attorney general"
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Who actually gives a fvck?
 
57Brave said:
do you understand her position on Minimum Wage ?
Why she seems to straddle a fence ?
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You either don't enjoy reading the entirety of people's posts, or you really enjoy shifting goal-posts.

I specifically noted I wasn't engaging the merits of a fifteen-dollar federally-mandated minimum-wage. My point was that progressives were assured that Mrs Clinton was Really Their Candidate because the Democratic Party had drafted the Most Progressive Platform Ever and their nominee had endorsed and committed to implementing that platform. Now, only a few weeks later, Mrs Clinton is already sliding away from that platform.
 
None of the above, I did read your post and am not moving goal posts.
That was an honest question

Her position has steadfastly been (know she embraced the $15 but don't know that she has ever abandoned her $12 /hr proposal) a blanket $12/hr rate indexed to $15.
Sanders position is a blanket $15 with no index for regional/local cost of living index

providing a minimum wage hike for all. All agree the cost of living in deep dark Iowa being lower than West Side Manhattan.
Taking both economies into account.
So yeah she straddles the $15 fence but with (to her mind) a program that fits both Iowa and Manhattan.

Personally I find her stance the more pragmatic. She stands a much better chance of $12 indexed getting through Congress than Sanders approach.
I have been scolded for favoring the MW being brought up to inflation indexed numbers. ~ $21
Which stands zero chance of ever happening
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The Progressives she supposedly assured were the ones disrupting the (D) Convention,booed Bernie Sanders ,voted Nader in 2000 and stayed home for the 2010 mid terms.
I share 50pound's opinion of their politics and fickle/smug activism
 
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