sturg33
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It seems like this is the narrative to keep the status quo in place. I hear it every year.
"Just give us this election, and we'll get it right next time. We simply can't afford to let X win"
HRC
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It seems like this is the narrative to keep the status quo in place. I hear it every year.
"Just give us this election, and we'll get it right next time. We simply can't afford to let X win"
57Brave
Well-known member
There will be at least 2 Supreme Court nominations.
you are okay with Trump making lifetime appointments of that magnitude?
Stop and Frisk
Citizens United
Voting Rights
Womens Health
Gender Rights
Gun Rights
Campaign Finance Reform
etc etc etc
you are okay with trump having final say on who decides those issues for the next two generations ?
I see where ou have views on Charlotte - understand the impact of a Trump Presidency on race relations
.........
One example
Fighting Citizens United. As you rail against the status quo of politics - do you understand the impact of that one law by itself?
We don't know who is running the government. We know the figureheads but who is actually calling the shots? We don't know
You talk of pay to play - simply , we don't know who is doing the paying
Not just in a White House race but all of the down ballot races from US Senate to local Dog Catcher.
Trump has no problem with the law as it stands
Why?
Are you in the Trump camp on this issue ??
...
Campaign Finance Reform I would think would be in your wheelhouse. After all, that is where the "corruption" grows.
Ever heard the stories about John Boehner making his bones in the House by distributing checks from the tobavcco lobby.
NRA, drug companies -- they don't get their power from the White House --
you are okay with Trump making lifetime appointments of that magnitude?
Stop and Frisk
Citizens United
Voting Rights
Womens Health
Gender Rights
Gun Rights
Campaign Finance Reform
etc etc etc
you are okay with trump having final say on who decides those issues for the next two generations ?
I see where ou have views on Charlotte - understand the impact of a Trump Presidency on race relations
.........
One example
Fighting Citizens United. As you rail against the status quo of politics - do you understand the impact of that one law by itself?
We don't know who is running the government. We know the figureheads but who is actually calling the shots? We don't know
You talk of pay to play - simply , we don't know who is doing the paying
Not just in a White House race but all of the down ballot races from US Senate to local Dog Catcher.
Trump has no problem with the law as it stands
Why?
Are you in the Trump camp on this issue ??
...
Campaign Finance Reform I would think would be in your wheelhouse. After all, that is where the "corruption" grows.
Ever heard the stories about John Boehner making his bones in the House by distributing checks from the tobavcco lobby.
NRA, drug companies -- they don't get their power from the White House --
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I get that, but that's not the crux of what I am saying. Trump is clearly a wild card. Whoever wins won't be able to stick to a lot of what they've been selling, but I can't see how anything Trump is saying will be good for millenials. I think what he has accomplished is a re-ordering on the right side of the political spectrum and some of that will create an opening for libertarians going forward, although not in this election. The challenge to the libertarian impulse will come from the unprincipled alt-right that has also emerged.
acesfull86
Well-known member
Not to mention - why would we feel good about HRC making those decisions?
I think the SCOTUS fear mongering is way overblown, fwiw.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
Nope, she has not revealed all the payoffs to the FBI, the foundations and other shenanigans she has perpetuated throughout her life. So that post is bogus. AG is hiding her stuff and the media is at her beckon.
If Donald the Drumpf slips up on the question I want them to ask, I will be drunk and high and vote for sHillary, not because I like her, I don't like felons being in the highest office, because it is the lesser or two evils and the world would be safer place, but still neglect my people. I vote to keep him out of office but internally I don't either.
sturg33
I
So sweet of her to give her life to public service. Such sacrifice... and only worth $132M because of it.
At least there's no corruption
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
Steak Sauce is an idiot, we all know that. He gets hammered by both sides and that is enough for me.
The simple blogs, reddit, tweets and what not is garbage as people really don't care.
After the debates either I vote for sHillary if Trump is dangerous to our country on nuclear launches or I am not voting at all. I don't trust him and if sHillary wins, I will make her life on this board miserable because she is conniving, lying, stonewalling, AG defended, FBI/CIA defended cunt ass b*tch. I can't stand her. She has to come clean and she wins the election easily and clear her conscious (at this time has none). Before those who protect her say she is innocent, why delete a lot of stuff and stonewall? Oh wait, you can't. You are pathetic.
But I will vote for her if Trump utters the wrong words in the debates. I rather have a felon in office than a lunatic.
The simple blogs, reddit, tweets and what not is garbage as people really don't care.
After the debates either I vote for sHillary if Trump is dangerous to our country on nuclear launches or I am not voting at all. I don't trust him and if sHillary wins, I will make her life on this board miserable because she is conniving, lying, stonewalling, AG defended, FBI/CIA defended cunt ass b*tch. I can't stand her. She has to come clean and she wins the election easily and clear her conscious (at this time has none). Before those who protect her say she is innocent, why delete a lot of stuff and stonewall? Oh wait, you can't. You are pathetic.
But I will vote for her if Trump utters the wrong words in the debates. I rather have a felon in office than a lunatic.
57Brave
Well-known member
Karen Tumulty
@ktumulty
Really? The last time the country fixated on Clinton marriage, her favorables shot up to 66% http://pewrsr.ch/1mbEbbX*
@ktumulty
Really? The last time the country fixated on Clinton marriage, her favorables shot up to 66% http://pewrsr.ch/1mbEbbX*
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
No judge is going to go that route. It would eviscerate the Constitution mandates.
acesfull86
Well-known member
HRC supports failed interventions based on bad intelligence and I'm supposed to care about how well Gary Johnson does during interview pop quizzes.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
If anything, a 3rd party movement will be established and that is why Hillary and her comrades are going after him now. In war it is not good taking on two opponents that want to destroy you. So she is trying to cut off the movement before it starts. But she does not know that Donald is feeding the 3rd party with his awful performance and I wouldn't put it pass him to do this on purpose.
"Look, me or Hillary, tough choice is it in a shortest midget contest? Me, the clown, she, the felon, that is your choice" And Donald laughing giving the Independents/Centrists like me the voice to opt for the 3rd option and if failed, they can get the ball rolling in 2020.
He doesn't want to win, he wants to disrupt the establishment. This I will give kudos to. Because we need it.
"Look, me or Hillary, tough choice is it in a shortest midget contest? Me, the clown, she, the felon, that is your choice" And Donald laughing giving the Independents/Centrists like me the voice to opt for the 3rd option and if failed, they can get the ball rolling in 2020.
He doesn't want to win, he wants to disrupt the establishment. This I will give kudos to. Because we need it.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
Rumor has it that sHillary want a drone strike on Assange.
Really? Why?
Really? Why?
57Brave
Well-known member
Now I am con fused. I was told it was the Clinton Foundation that was crooked and schemed money from people for personal gain.
No one could show me where there was actually this purported let alone a smoking gun but, I was assured it was there. Cause you know, they are lyers ,cheats and murderers. Scaife
They looked at the foundation for 8 years and the Clintons for over 30.
Looking at Trump for almost a year and Christie for 2.
This action against the foundation is spit in the ocean compared to what has been documented that they actually did with charitable money.
4-3-2-1 here cones the false equivalency of "they are all corrupt"
At what point will people feel silly making that argument?
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New York Attorney General: Trump Charitable Foundation Violated The Law
The office of New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issued a "Notice of Violation" to the Donald J. Trump Foundation, and ordered the foundation to cease and desist from soliciting contributions in New York.
The notice states that the Trump Foundation failed to register with the Charities Bureau before soliciting contributions or engaging in fundraising activities.
Schneiderman's office said in a press release it found that "the Trump Foundation 'is in violation of section 172 of Article 7-A New York's Executive Law, which requires charitable organizations that solicit contributions in New York State to register with the Charities Bureau and to provide annual financial reports and annual audited financial statements.' Despite failing to register pursuant to Article 7-A, the Trump Foundation solicited contributions in New York State earlier this year, in violation of New York law.
"The notice directs the Trump Foundation to 'immediately cease soliciting contributions or engaging in other fundraising activities in New York' and 'to provide the [AG's] Charities Bureau with the information specified in Section 172 within fifteen (15) days' of receiving the notice."
No one could show me where there was actually this purported let alone a smoking gun but, I was assured it was there. Cause you know, they are lyers ,cheats and murderers. Scaife
They looked at the foundation for 8 years and the Clintons for over 30.
Looking at Trump for almost a year and Christie for 2.
This action against the foundation is spit in the ocean compared to what has been documented that they actually did with charitable money.
4-3-2-1 here cones the false equivalency of "they are all corrupt"
At what point will people feel silly making that argument?
..................................................................................................
New York Attorney General: Trump Charitable Foundation Violated The Law
The office of New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman issued a "Notice of Violation" to the Donald J. Trump Foundation, and ordered the foundation to cease and desist from soliciting contributions in New York.
The notice states that the Trump Foundation failed to register with the Charities Bureau before soliciting contributions or engaging in fundraising activities.
Schneiderman's office said in a press release it found that "the Trump Foundation 'is in violation of section 172 of Article 7-A New York's Executive Law, which requires charitable organizations that solicit contributions in New York State to register with the Charities Bureau and to provide annual financial reports and annual audited financial statements.' Despite failing to register pursuant to Article 7-A, the Trump Foundation solicited contributions in New York State earlier this year, in violation of New York law.
"The notice directs the Trump Foundation to 'immediately cease soliciting contributions or engaging in other fundraising activities in New York' and 'to provide the [AG's] Charities Bureau with the information specified in Section 172 within fifteen (15) days' of receiving the notice."
True. But it's hard to look at this objectively - given the timeliness, given the AG's public allegiances, given the exaggerated language used in the 'notice of violation' - and treat it as business as normal.