HRC

watching the (R) debates and how Trump boat raced,bullied and stumped each and all of Jeb,Rand, Kasich,Cruz,Rubio,Christie etal
Watching (D) debates and how HRC fared vs Sanders going toe to toe without ever raising her voice
Then watching HRC completely dominate Trump in head to head national debates
without even breaking a sweat

I look at the roster of HRC surrogates criss-crossing the country
Looking at the ground organization
She is making it look easy

I just don't see what or how or who was going to stop her
 
57Brave said:
more policy:

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All these things and no talk about nuclear, which means hillary is just as moronic as many other "green energy" people.
 
57Brave said:
watching the (R) debates and how Trump boat raced,bullied and stumped each and all of Jeb,Rand, Kasich,Cruz,Rubio,Christie etal
Watching (D) debates and how HRC fared vs Sanders going toe to toe without ever raising her voice
Then watching HRC completely dominate Trump in head to head national debates
without even breaking a sweat

I look at the roster of HRC surrogates criss-crossing the country
Looking at the ground organization
She is making it look easy

I just don't see what or how or who was going to stop her
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Dude, what happens in the movies every single time somebody says something like this?
 
Hawk said:
When every media outlet in the country is reporting that it's a shoo-in for Hillary, believe it or not, that's an incredibly bad thing for her campaign.
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Agree 100%. Could suppress turnout on the D side of the equation or provide anti-Trump voters who don't particularly like her with license to vote for Johnson or Stein.
 
Hawk said:
When every media outlet in the country is reporting that it's a shoo-in for Hillary, believe it or not, that's an incredibly bad thing for her campaign.
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And if that's what's happening right now (I don't even pay attention to those things until right before the election), you can pretty much bet it's closer than that, probably a lot closer. If they follow their patterns of elections gone by they'll say it's all but over until they get people to believe that, then they'll start talking about how close it's getting so as to get people to tune in to find out what happened to make it close again.
 
50PoundHead said:
Agree 100%. Could suppress turnout on the D side of the equation or provide anti-Trump voters who don't particularly like her with license to vote for Johnson or Stein.
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trump will be great for Dem turnout. Most women I know can't wait to vote against him. A trump win right now, after being down by as much as he is, would be unprecedented.
 
That is just my view.
Anyone else remember 1984 or 1996 ?
Reagan to my chagrin and Clinton 42 were in the same boat where
the only lingering question is -- what will the Congress look like.

(R) is pulling ground game support and money from Trump.
He isn't even running vs Clinton any longer

The ground game is still face to face and door to door politics. Ride to the polls, calling wavering voters to assure they stay in camp. Local fundraising, coat tail politics
Trump has his basket of deplorables.
And it appears to have peaked

unless there is a path where he attracts new voters in key states, this is over.
I don't see it - if you do I'd be glad to look
 
So ... Podesta's iCloud username and password were published in a batch of Wikileaks data that went live a few hours ago. Minions of the Internet seized on it immediately, hacked his Twitter, reset his iPhone, ordered pizzas to his home address, and ... purportedly got into his new alternate e-mail address.

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They are claiming the rest of the e-mails have been passed on to Assange. I don't know if this screenshot is real, but we do now officially know that his accounts were compromised.
 
Hawk said:
So ... Podesta's iCloud username and password were published in a batch of Wikileaks data that went live a few hours ago. Minions of the Internet seized on it immediately, hacked his Twitter, reset his iPhone, ordered pizzas to his home address, and ... purportedly got into his new alternate e-mail address.

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They are claiming the rest of the e-mails have been passed on to Assange. I don't know if this screenshot is real, but we do now officially know that his accounts were compromised.
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Keep telling folks. Trump has outperformed polls since the primary season began.
 
Anyone care to rebunk these debunked myths about HRC?

I know why Hillary draws such hatred from the Right but I'm interested in the actual case for her being an especially corrupt politician. Republicans had no problems with Bush or Cheney's corruption, which was rather well documented and unrefutable.

For example:



1. Hillary Clinton shared state secrets through her private email server.

In short, no, this isn’t true. But it is complicated.

One thing that sucks about being secretary of state (or president, for that matter) is that your job literally runs 24/7. Of course, you can’t be in the office around the clock. So every secretary of state since the smartphone became accessible has had one. Colin Powell had one. Condoleezza Rice had one. And they all used them to keep doing their job after the office was closed for the day. And all of them used unsecured servers, because all of them took their Blackberries home, in order to answer emails with state department employees and dignitaries abroad in different time zones.

What made Hillary Clinton’s different from her predecessors was that she knew it was insecure. In fact, she asked the NSA to give her a secure server, just to be on the safe side. And the NSA said no. They weren’t set up for things like that, and they didn’t want to take the time, so they told her it would be fine. Hillary Clinton wasn’t so sure, though. In a time when information hacks of the U.S. government by China, Russia, and other potential threats were becoming increasingly present threats, Hillary Clinton decided not to use the State Department server and decided instead to use the server the Secret Service set up for her husband after he left the White House. This is a secure server, it’s just not the same secure server. And while the State Department was hacked, Hillary’s private server wasn’t. So what the question boiled down to is “Was Hillary Clinton committing a crime?”

After millions and millions of our tax dollars were spent trying to answer this question, the answer was no. She didn’t commit a crime. But it was improper to unilaterally decide to use her own server when no other government agency signed off on it.

 
Runnin said:
Anyone care to rebunk these debunked myths about HRC?

I know why Hillary draws such hatred from the Right but I'm interested in the actual case for her being an especially corrupt politician. Republicans had no problems with Bush or Cheney's corruption, which was rather well documented and unrefutable.

For example:


1. Hillary Clinton shared state secrets through her private email server.

In short, no, this isn’t true. But it is complicated.

One thing that sucks about being secretary of state (or president, for that matter) is that your job literally runs 24/7. Of course, you can’t be in the office around the clock. So every secretary of state since the smartphone became accessible has had one. Colin Powell had one. Condoleezza Rice had one. And they all used them to keep doing their job after the office was closed for the day. And all of them used unsecured servers, because all of them took their Blackberries home, in order to answer emails with state department employees and dignitaries abroad in different time zones.

What made Hillary Clinton’s different from her predecessors was that she knew it was insecure. In fact, she asked the NSA to give her a secure server, just to be on the safe side. And the NSA said no. They weren’t set up for things like that, and they didn’t want to take the time, so they told her it would be fine. Hillary Clinton wasn’t so sure, though. In a time when information hacks of the U.S. government by China, Russia, and other potential threats were becoming increasingly present threats, Hillary Clinton decided not to use the State Department server and decided instead to use the server the Secret Service set up for her husband after he left the White House. This is a secure server, it’s just not the same secure server. And while the State Department was hacked, Hillary’s private server wasn’t. So what the question boiled down to is “Was Hillary Clinton committing a crime?”

After millions and millions of our tax dollars were spent trying to answer this question, the answer was no. She didn’t commit a crime. But it was improper to unilaterally decide to use her own server when no other government agency signed off on it.
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Is this article from The Onion?
 
Hillary enlisting the Obamas to separate Trump from GOP supporters.

COLUMBUS, Ohio / POLITICO — President Barack Obama on Thursday night tore into Republican leaders for “riding this tiger” of what he repeatedly called “crazy” hoaxes and conspiracies that created the conditions for Donald Trump to become their presidential nominee—and blasted anyone now trying to distance themselves out of what he derided as political expediency.

No one who stands by Trump this year, Obama said, can claim to be serious about family values or foreign policy. And nobody can claim higher ground than Trump if they spent the last eight years pursuing an agenda he said was pure opposition, embracing a right-wing media that regularly trafficked in conspiracy theories and accepting personal attacks on him from their base.

“They stood by while this happened, and Donald Trump as he’s prone to do, he didn’t build the building himself — he just slapped his name on it and took credit for it,” Obama said.

Obama’s move mirrors the strategy that’s started bubbling up from Hillary Clinton’s campaign as she attempts to finish off a trailing Trump by re-connecting him to the Republicans she spent most of the campaign saying he wasn’t part of. Republicans are in a box, is the argument: any who supported Trump, or at least didn’t actively denounce him, deserves to go down with him.

 
Forever Fredi said:
Keep telling folks. Trump has outperformed polls since the primary season began.
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But that was when he was running against "Lil Marco" and "Lyin' Ted"
Neither of which did any oppo or stood up to Trump.

If anything post (R) convention we've learned Trump can't take a punch

Leaving me and 3/4 of the country wondering why these things are coming out now rather than Dec - Jan or Feb
 
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