If your interest payments from your bank are significant enough that the federal government would do something to you if you didn’t report the income, then yes I’m advocating for both Pedro and Peter to have more protection than Sturg in this case.
I didn’t vote for Trump but I’m cautiously optimistic
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nsacpi
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To help you do this banks provide tax documents with the necessary information. So not only is it the law, there is also a convenient mechanism for finding the correct amount to report. But law and order is something that some people are fond of trotting out only when congenial to their ideological predelictions. If they have an ideological view that government is too big or wasteful, they are the first to cheer reductions in the IRS's enforcement capacity. Defund the IRS! Abolish the IRS!
Nah, what I’m saying is citizen Sturg has to report certain incomes or he goes to jail, but citizen Sturg wouldn’t need to report other certain incomes or he goes to jail. I’m not looking to convince you of this part of it, but it’s not based on immigration status.
Tapate50
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nsacpi
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Nope. The IRS applies the law in a reasonable and equitable way. If you make a mistake they send you a notification to correct it, with a small interest payment added to the amount you owe.
A similarly pragmatic approach to the problem of undocumented migrants might be to send the ones who commit serious crimes back, keep the ones who have been working and abiding by our laws. Given them amnesty and a pathway to citizenship. Maybe make them pay a small fee (or a fine if it makes you feel better to call it that).
None of this is hard. Just have to be pragmatic and see that none of this is existential. No one invaded the United States. No one is occupying our country. No one is trying to impose Sharia law. We just have a bunch of hardworking people willing to do work most Americans don't want to do. Trying to feed their families. They make our economy stronger. They improve federal finances (especially when you consider the data showing impressive upward mobility on the part of the children and grandchildren of immigrants). They certainly make a great contribution to American culture, with their cuisine, music and other traditions.
sturg should spend some time with Pedro.. Make an effort to connect and discover their shared humanity. Maybe turn Pedro on to folk libertarianism.
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sturg33
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I know you're not trying to convince me because the argument is retarded.
What you have made clear is that:
1. Coming illegally should not be punished
2. Tax evasion should not be punished
That's 2 major crimes being committed, while getting the benefit of all citizen federal benefits.
It'd be nice if we held illegal criminals to the same legal standard as the tax paying American citizen. But your suicidal empathy would rather our cities be burned to the ground than to enforce the laws
sturg33
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Forget about mistake. What happens if I dont report it at all?
Similarly, what happens if an illegal criminal doesn't report it at all?
nsacpi
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They will send you a reminder. Not a biggie at all. Not everything in life is a biggie or an existential threat to our country and freedoms.
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zitothebrave
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Trump really just wants to make america shit again.
nsacpi
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They will send you more reminders. They try very hard not to criminalize thangs. It is a pragmatic approach. Not everyone shares you anxiety about things that can be managed in a pragmatic and equitable manner. You should chill a little. Hang out with Pedro. Have a beer. Tell him how great Ron Paul is. It's very healthy to do thangs like that.
sturg33
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I think you're arriving at the point and per usual need to deflect in order to avoid looking like an idiot
Sturg33 gets reminders, penalty fees, and if no compliance, eventually jail time
Pedro doesnt need to bother at all, because no reminder will be sent in the first place
Sturg33 has to comply with our tax laws to maintain his freedom. Pedro does not
You wish to burn Los Angeles to the ground to ensure this is protected
nsacpi
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This kind of shit is so dumb and counterproductive. Beyond stupid. And damaging to our image and economy in a variety of ways. If you do a cost-benefit of shit like that you can't help but conclude it is a policy by stupid people with massive psychological hangups.
Trump really just wants to make america shit again.
nsacpi
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This is why I advise you to spend time with Pedro. Talk to someone. Anyone. Get help. No one is trying to git sturg. Honest.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
No one wants to burn LA to the ground except Trump and ICE.
sturg33
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Are they the ones burning it?
sturg33
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Deflection is the best avenue for your retarded argument. It's why our college educated kids these days are so screwed. They are taught to no be able to critically think
I'll ask you once more, assuming no answer here. Why are you OK with American citizens being required to pay federal taxes in order to keep their freedom but are unbothered that illegal criminals are not?