Ignorance Is Strength

sturg33 said:
Thats a good one.

Anything after Christ?
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Pre-colonization there were a few kingdoms in West Africa that were immensely rich from the trans-Saharan trade routes (the Ghana empire is one example).

In modern times, Atlanta has a strong case to be considered the most successful majority black “area” in the world.
 
chop2chip said:
Pre-colonization there were a few kingdoms in West Africa that were immensely rich from the trans-Saharan trade routes (the Ghana empire is one example).

In modern times, Atlanta has a strong case to be considered the most successful majority black “area” in the world.
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There are no examples i would point to of a majority black country being successful after colonization. You can draw whatever conclusions you'd like, but there are are some obvious things to observe from where I sit.

If the truth offends, thats not my problem
 
There is no scientific/data based argument against the original statement. Leftists reaction is to just cry racism. We don’t care.
 
sturg33 said:
There are no examples i would point to of a majority black country being successful after colonization. You can draw whatever conclusions you'd like, but there are are some obvious things to observe from where I sit.

If the truth offends, thats not my problem
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South Africa was in much better shape 15 years ago than today. Would anyone disagree?

What has changed?
 
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sturg33 said:
There are no examples i would point to of a majority black country being successful after colonization. You can draw whatever conclusions you'd like, but there are are some obvious things to observe from where I sit.

If the truth offends, thats not my problem
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Market capitalism, liberal democratic systems, and the rule of law framework that originated out of Europe is the defining thread that connects most of what we consider “successful” countries. The failure to embrace those elements is what’s held back the rest of world (with few exceptions).

I don’t believe race is the reason one society succeeds or fails at embracing those elements.
 
chop2chip said:
Market capitalism, liberal democratic systems, and the rule of law framework that originated out of Europe is the defining thread that connects most of what we consider “successful” countries. The failure to embrace those elements is what’s held back the rest of world (with few exceptions).

I don’t believe race is the reason one society succeeds or fails at embracing those elements.
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it seems to me 3rd world poverty stricken countries who are given trillions of dollars from rich countries could observe what breeds more prosperity and would follow suit

for whatever reason, that has not happened
 
chop2chip said:
Market capitalism, liberal democratic systems, and the rule of law framework that originated out of Europe is the defining thread that connects most of what we consider “successful” countries. The failure to embrace those elements is what’s held back the rest of world (with few exceptions).

I don’t believe race is the reason one society succeeds or fails at embracing those elements.
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Eh - IQ is a thing.

Not sure why that seems to be blatantly ignored on this topic.
 
sturg33 said:
it seems to me 3rd world poverty stricken countries who are given trillions of dollars from rich countries could observe what breeds more prosperity and would follow suit

for whatever reason, that has not happened
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That approach is ineffective within rich countries as well.

Hopefully Argentina can become a successful model for third world countries to imitate.
 
chop2chip said:
That approach is ineffective within rich countries as well.

Hopefully Argentina can become a successful model for third world countries to imitate.
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It wouldn't work - There is a much stronger body of history of the people of South America running prosperous free countries than Africa. They also have their fair share of homicidal killers as well but who doesn't!
 
From where I sit, the entire American society has bent over backwards to offer advantages and privilege to black people over the last 3 decades and the outcomes have actually gotten worse from pre-civil rights era.

there are no African countries we can point to as a financial or liberty success story.

Make of that what you will
 
sturg33 said:
It is rather amazing. Blacks are significantly worse off today than they were prior to the Civil rights era. And you can blame the federal government for subsidizing them into infinite poverty
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Yeah, Civil Rights Era was late 60's. War on Drugs started in 71. Then came the generations of fatherless kids. Its not just black people. Cops target poor people because non poor people can afford real lawyers. Before the war on drugs we had a couple hundred thousand prisoners. Now theres 2.5 million. We have put 40 million people in prison in that time since 71. The war on drugs is the holocaust in slow motion and black people are the Jews. And that wase purpose it was designed for. Its not a flaw or unintended consequence.
 
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