Inauguration Day 2017

thethe said:
To be fair the media is taking every opportunity to suppress the Trump, economic populist, anti establishment movement every chance they get. Trump lays up a couple of softballs for them to hit but lets not act like the media is an innocent player in this. They are doing everything they can to delegitimize Trump so that they don't lose their own power.
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It's very much to Trump's advantage to propagate a narrative of a war with the media. Two days in and it already seems played out. Wonder how he'll keep it up.
 
He wouldn't have to as much if the media wasn't as quick to report fake news as they are (MLK bust).
 
thethe said:
He wouldn't have to as much if the media wasn't as quick to report fake news as they are (MLK bust).
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Who knows if that story was based on the reporter's internal bias. Perhaps it was, but the fact is it was corrected as soon as the initial reporter realized his error. So the reporter corrected it and the news organization retracted the story.

Meanwhile, the press secretary goes to the podium and says several things which are demonstrably false. Are you interested in accountability there?
 
Whining about the factual reporting of the inauguration turnout so publicly seems like a mistake to me. Now the stroy is how Trump can't handle the truth.

It would be so easy for Trump to turn this issue around and begin to change some minds. All he would have to do would be to acknowledge a less that
stellar turnout and say that he's knows some people are worried about the future but vow to makes true believers of everyone and in four
years .... blah, blah, blah.
 
Julio3000 said:
Who knows if that story was based on the reporter's internal bias. Perhaps it was, but the fact is it was corrected as soon as the initial reporter realized his error. So the reporter corrected it and the news organization retracted the story.

Meanwhile, the press secretary goes to the podium and says several things which are demonstrably false. Are you interested in accountability there?
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The damage is done by the initial rush to report false news especially something g as sendative as a larger than life figure like MLK

What did Spicer say today?
 
To me the laughable press secretary speech was all an attempt to get the press talking about that instead of the massive protest marches.

Trump always does these "micro controversies" that are worth obsessing over for a day or two but never has enough steam to carry the story long term
 
sturg33 said:
To me the laughable press secretary speech was all an attempt to get the press talking about that instead of the massive protest marches.

Trump always does these "micro controversies" that are worth obsessing over for a day or two but never has enough steam to carry the story long term
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Bingo.
 
sturg33 said:
To me the laughable press secretary speech was all an attempt to get the press talking about that instead of the massive protest marches.

Trump always does these "micro controversies" that are worth obsessing over for a day or two but never has enough steam to carry the story long term
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I don't buy the 4d chess argument. I just think Trump can't help himself.
 
sturg33 said:
To me the laughable press secretary speech was all an attempt to get the press talking about that instead of the massive protest marches.

Trump always does these "micro controversies" that are worth obsessing over for a day or two but never has enough steam to carry the story long term
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I would agree with this. That tendency, combined with the 2+2=5 vibe I got from Spicer's comments about the size of the inauguration crowd does concern me. I don't care one iota about how many people went to see it, but let's leave the North Korea fearless leader tactics to other nations.
 
thethe said:
The damage is done by the initial rush to report false news especially something g as sendative as a larger than life figure like MLK

What did Spicer say today?
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I get that, but it's kind of rich to be coming at a factual error in a tweet from the perspective of a Donald Trump supporter. I mean, it's a hell of a time to decide that objective truth is a worthwhile pursuit (**coughBIRTHER**).

This is a guy whose own supporters say isn't supposed to be taken literally, and who has been held to a different standard of truthfulness throughout this process. So lecturing the press over a quickly-corrected factual error is pretty weak sauce.

Spicer made several untrue or misleading statements in his short remarks. Really, just obvious, laughable, verifiable horse****. Again, pretty rich when the context was scolding the media for inaccurate reporting.

Sturg is absolutely right, though. They chucked a stink bomb into the room because they want the "Trump Attacks Media" headline instead of "Millions Protest Trump."
 
mqt said:
I would agree with this. That tendency, combined with the 2+2=5 vibe I got from Spicer's comments about the size of the inauguration crowd does concern me. I don't care one iota about how many people went to see it, but let's leave the North Korea fearless leader tactics to other nations.
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Obvious lies serve a purpose. Those disseminating them get to watch who challenges those lies and who will show themselves willing to repeat them. Spicer passed his test with flying colors. I wonder who will be next.
 
Dude better HTFU because sending an underling to go yell at the press corps every time he thinks someone is unfair to him is probably not a sustainable policy.
 
Julio3000 said:
I get that, but it's kind of rich to be coming at a factual error in a tweet from the perspective of a Donald Trump supporter. I mean, it's a hell of a time to decide that objective truth is a worthwhile pursuit (**coughBIRTHER**).

This is a guy whose own supporters say isn't supposed to be taken literally, and who has been held to a different standard of truthfulness throughout this process. So lecturing the press over a quickly-corrected factual error is pretty weak sauce.

Spicer made several untrue or misleading statements in his short remarks. Really, just obvious, laughable, verifiable horse****. Again, pretty rich when the context was scolding the media for inaccurate reporting.

Sturg is absolutely right, though. They chucked a stink bomb into the room because they want the "Trump Attacks Media" headline instead of "Millions Protest Trump."
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I agree with what you're saying but it doesn't make sense to focus on one side of this. Both the trump administration and the media are being ridiculous.
 
thethe said:
I agree with what you're saying but it doesn't make sense to focus on one side of this. Both the trump administration and the media are being ridiculous.
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What's your specific criticism of the media in this instance?
 
thethe said:
The sensationalism of their reporting. People were likening trumps inaugural address to nazi germany. It's absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.
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You are right. Domestic media over the past 48 hours has been sensationalist as hell. Anyone who can't objectively admit that needs to reassess their viewing habits.
 
Hawk said:
You are right. Domestic media over the past 48 hours has been sensationalist as hell. Anyone who can't objectively admit that needs to reassess their viewing habits.
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The problem is that the majority of the media has engaged in this form of reporting for a long time and those on the left just can't distinguish from the norm.
 
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