JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
::cough cough:: Olivera at second ::cough cough::
Inciarte
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yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
I wouldn't trade Inciarte for him.
But I do like Soler more than Baez. I can't see Baez hitting in the majors.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I am not sold Mallex is an every day guy. We're likely to get a breakdown from Olivera or Markakis so he'll likely get a chance to play. He could play LF (I know he has to be a CF to be a plus player, just saying you could do it to see if he hits).
I'm not trading Inciarte unless we get a big overpay. From the cubs I'm talking about a top 10 prospect and either Baez or Soler. Or maybe their top Catcher prospect and a top 20 prospect (from their system, not overall).
Yes the cubs would laugh at that now. And the cubs message boards would be on fire. But the trade happens in a scenario where they are looking at needing one piece to win the WS. They have the depth and the money to overpay if they are a piece away.
If no big overpay you keep him and address in the off season what you want to do.
I'm not trading Inciarte unless we get a big overpay. From the cubs I'm talking about a top 10 prospect and either Baez or Soler. Or maybe their top Catcher prospect and a top 20 prospect (from their system, not overall).
Yes the cubs would laugh at that now. And the cubs message boards would be on fire. But the trade happens in a scenario where they are looking at needing one piece to win the WS. They have the depth and the money to overpay if they are a piece away.
If no big overpay you keep him and address in the off season what you want to do.
Another team that might make sense for Inciarte or Markakis is the Jays. They are currently set to deploy a mish-mash of poor players in LF, and both Inciarte and Markikis would fit. They are currently around $130M in payroll, so I don't know if they could make the money work for Markakis, but they have a top 50 guy in Alford that would be a good centerpiece to an Inciarte trade.
I don't think they'll "force it", but do think it very well could happen. JMO, but I honestly think that's what the brass hopes will happen.
You sound like the deal maker that Donald Trump claims to be. But I agree with you, when you have something someone needs, don't let it go unless they make it worth your while.
Seldom do we ever disagree ol' pal, but if they really don't like Hector's defense enough to leave him at 3B after the CJ Experience, I have literally no interest in seeing him try to turn double-plays with his back to runners personally. With Albies and Swanson on the fast-track, I'd just as soon they put him somewhere and leave him alone - I understand not wanting to use it as an excuse, but it's got to be awfully hard to hit when you've moved around as much (socially and positionally) as he has in the last 18 months. Stick him somewhere that all he has to worry about and let's see if he really can hit.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I think both the Cubs and Braves drew a line in the sand and neither are ready to budge. I think Spring training will determine if anything happens. If Soler is mashing like he did in the playoffs, then Ender and Julio wouldn't be enough to get him and the Cubs will live with his poor defense. but if he struggles, then I think the Cubs will loosen up on the prospects a bit more to get a quality CF so they can transition Heywood over to RF.. But if that happens, the price for Ender would probably go up a little.
JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
I hear you, mate. I just can't help thinking that the one spot you mention is likely his natural position, or as close to one as he has. Yeah, he may pull a Ron Gant and thrive in the OF after shifting from second to third, but I for one would like to see what he can do where he's most comfortable. So I agree 100% with your reasoning, just not the conclusion. Also, second seems to be a position of at least equal need unless you are a bigger Jace fan than I am.
I am. I think Jace - or some mix of Jace/KJ/Castro will be just fine at 2B until Dansby and Ozzie get here. Since you gave up pieces to get him (and even more because he's going to be here for a while), I'd prefer to put Hector in LF and tell him "This is yours, now go hit.".
I think Mallex is going to be a solid 4th OF. I do not see him as an everyday guy.
I see no reason to trade Inciarte....he is exactly the type of player we need to be acquiring, not dealing away.
That being said....if some team wants to be stupid and give us a major overpay for him...as with any player, you trade him....it would have to be a clear, no brainier win for us though.
I see no reason to trade Inciarte....he is exactly the type of player we need to be acquiring, not dealing away.
That being said....if some team wants to be stupid and give us a major overpay for him...as with any player, you trade him....it would have to be a clear, no brainier win for us though.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Can you imagine how many times he's hit the reset button since 2011? Hard to get any flow going. In Cuba, he could flat hit. I'm thinking .330 there, if that's on a par with AA/AAA...if he's played his whole life at 2B, why are jacking around with LF? I saw some film and, although he's a big guy, looked much more instinctive at 2B. So I'd like to see him at 2B as well. 3B is okay until he proves he can't...I just think left field is a bad idea. If he's really .280/15 HRs, his bat isn't going to play in left anyway.
Cutting the other way is that Jace's thumb ligament was so badly torn he was casted for six weeks after the season. So if he's closer to the player he was from mid April to mid June, he may be our answer at 2B. At least until Swanson comes up and blows us all away.
But co-sign on the "no!" to Olivera in LF.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
I gotta see Mallex erryday for a while before I fire him, but I've seen enough of Inciarte to know the Cubs better send several million barrels of oil along with Soler for me to even think about it.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Right. Inciarte may well be their guy. And we're at a point where there's no point unless they bend over. Stew did.
Oh, wait. That was Lucille.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
Truth is that Cubs have a lot of guys who are blocked
They could be one guy away. That guy could be a cf with a high obp.
They prob overspend on pitching but I can hope
They could be one guy away. That guy could be a cf with a high obp.
They prob overspend on pitching but I can hope
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Texas is a team to keep an eye out for. The Rangers could really use Ender and have a lot of valuable pieces.
You'd probably never get a Miller level trade, but they very well might overpay. I agree with most posters I've seen on the subject, don't trade Inciarte unless it's a clear overpay.
