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Coolidge was far from a great president but I know why you like him. The best thing about him as president was that he had Hoover handle all of his heavy lifting. That said, his approach to business is what lead to the great depression, I don't think you can really argue too much with that.
 
goldfly said:
seriously never heard someone argue this

in person or the internet
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And hopefully you never will again, Coolidge was godawful, but he was the kind of president sturg likes, he stands back and lets big business and the uber wealthy run roughshod over the people. I know a president can be too far to the other extreme but Coolidge was among the worst ever IMO, along with Buchanan (#1's nominee), AJohnson was pretty bad, Harding was bad, but much like W IMO, he was just a trusting rube who wasn't a bad guy necessarily, he just trusted his people and friends to the extreme.

Coolidge's motto, supposedly directly from his mouth:
The man who builds a factor builds a temple
The man who works there, worships there

Yeah, my kinda guy LOL
 
Coolidge isn't that terrible. Buchanon is horrible, my worsts are Buchanon, Pierce, Harding, Grant, and Johnson. Of course many of them were probably the victim of terrible congresses but yeah.

Harding was a terrible president, he was big business lover like Coolidge but with way more scandal. He chose who to surround himself with and therefor has to deal with what happened. Same with W.
 
zitothebrave said:
Coolidge isn't that terrible. Buchanon is horrible, my worsts are Buchanon, Pierce, Harding, Grant, and Johnson. Of course many of them were probably the victim of terrible congresses but yeah.

Harding was a terrible president, he was big business lover like Coolidge but with way more scandal. He chose who to surround himself with and therefor has to deal with what happened. Same with W.
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What? Where's Millard Fillmore?

One can argue that all the antebellum Prez's between Jackson and Lincoln were mediocre with the exception of Polk, but those guys were trying to dance on the head of a pin while trying to balance territorial expansion with the slavery question. In a deep sense, this era shows what some of the Founding Fathers preferred: strong (and contentious) legislative branch, relatively weak executive branch. Some legislative giants in that era, particularly Calhoun, Clay, and Webster.

I don't where to rank Coolidge. Interpretation of his legacy is bound to be polar in nature.

As per the original post, I don't know if Ryan is preparing for a Presidential run or not. He is seemingly going more moderate with the brokering of the budget deal and I frankly don't know if that helps him with the emerging Republican base. It surely helps him with the big money "stability" types, but I don't know if that will carry him enough. The problem with anyone who has ever been in a legislative leadership position running for an executive branch job (at either the state or federal level) is that they've had to be "for" and "against" a lot of stuff that is visible to the public. Makes it easy for those who don't have that burden to rhetorically shoot at them. Whatever one thinks about the Ryan Budget, there's something in there that will tick someone off and if you tick enough people off, it serves as a drag on your aspirations.
 
I know-I know no one is a fan of Rand Paul, Begging the question - who is the darling of the anti-Obama bots ??

and this. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/questions-surround-rand-pauls-nsa-suit
Appears Paul is another in a long line of Not Ready for Prime Timers
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The controversy eventually faded, but the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank reports that Paul, already caught plagiarizing late last year, is now being accused of stealing his NSA lawsuit from its author.
 
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