Is it too early to give up on BJ Upton?

thewupk said:
You mean how Prado consistently sucks in September?

How about these numbers last year

April 64 wrc+
May 98 wrc+
June 56 wrc+
July 139 wrc+
August 173 wrc+
Sept 80 wrc+

And Prado might be a little better defender then Justin but I doubt it's my much. His high defensive ratings in Left in 2013 were due to having a premier defensive CF.
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I dont care what wrc+ says. Sounds like witchcraft if you ask me. Prado was rarely dead weight in the lineup. Justin is dead weight 50% of the season. Dead weight % > wrc+
 
cajunrevenge said:
Overall Justin might rate pretty well but he is just too much feast or famine. I am not going to say Justin is not a good player but i just don't think his streakiness is what we need. There aren't many dback fans who miss Justin. Even when he was red hot they knew what was coming. 1 month of awesome followed by 2 months of suck.
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Really? Most Dback fans hated the trade.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I dont care what wrc+ says. Sounds like witchcraft if you ask me. Prado was rarely dead weight in the lineup. Justin is dead weight 50% of the season. Dead weight % > wrc+
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Can't help ignorance. And consistency is overrated. End numbers is what matters.
 
Depends. Justin had 1 great month and the rest were meh. Prado usually shows up every month except September. Also he can play anywhere and is a leadoff guy that would allow heyward to move to 2nd or 3rd in line up.
 
KeithLockhart said:
Depends. Justin had 1 great month and the rest were meh. Prado usually shows up every month except September. Also he can play anywhere and is a leadoff guy that would allow heyward to move to 2nd or 3rd in line up.
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Upton had 2 great months. Same as Prado last year. It's just that Uptons other months weren't all horribad like Prados. In the end Upton is a better hitter and that's all that matters.
 
Yes, so far BJ sucks and it's easy to make the case for him not hitting 2nd, but I think it's too early to give up on him. We've got plenty of offensive pop in this lineup. As long as he works hard, plays good D and the coaches still believe in him I say let him stink it up for a month or so. If he's still below .200 in May he doesn't deserve to be in anybody's starting lineup.

However if he does turn it around and get hot it's a huge mental boost for the team. The players know how hard the game can be and want to see each other succeed. But until then sometimes you just have to live with a ugly mole on your nose.
 
The Dback fans hated the trade because they were dissapointed in the return they got for Upton. Strangely when I visited their blogs to see how they were reacting to Justin's hot start it turned out they had been through this before. The cock tease hot streak that makes you think he has finally figured it out to the month long suckfest that were his slumps. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't already have automatic out BJ Upton but I can't stand to watch two of them in the lineup at the same time.
 
It's hard to not to see where these feelings for Justin Upton come from. Sometimes it was just downright frustrating to watch him bat last year. He would swing through poorly located fastballs and his power would be completely zapped.

At the same time, we won 96, he was responsible for carrying us through a lot of wins (while also not hitting well in key spots). We'll see. He still has that potential no doubt.
 
cajunrevenge said:
The Dback fans hated the trade because they were dissapointed in the return they got for Upton. Strangely when I visited their blogs to see how they were reacting to Justin's hot start it turned out they had been through this before. The cock tease hot streak that makes you think he has finally figured it out to the month long suckfest that were his slumps. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't already have automatic out BJ Upton but I can't stand to watch two of them in the lineup at the same time.
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Yeah Justin is inconsistent like most sluggers. Big deal. I would rather have that then someone who is consistently above average like Prado generally is because in the end it doesn't matter if your inconsistent or go from hot to cold. What matters is what you did for the entire season. And Justin helped the team get out to a huge lead last year with his insane April that helped the Braves cruise to a division title.
 
thethe said:
I just find it amazing that people still talk about Upton like he is this elite player. He is what he is...a very good player but he isn't a superstar.
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Justin could be a superstar. As he is he's more of an all-star level player less of a superstar, but he's produced at superstar levels already in his career.
 
Is it too early to give up on him? Yes.
Is it too early to move him to the bottom of the lineup where he belongs? Absolutely not.
 
zitothebrave said:
Justin could be a superstar. As he is he's more of an all-star level player less of a superstar, but he's produced at superstar levels already in his career.
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Superstar levels? One season above 30 home runs and he had never hit above .290 in a season. Please elaborate on what superstar numbers he has? Superstars are Miggy and Trout currently.
 
The Justin Upton being a superstar talk should be over. Again, he is a solid player but he is not what people make him out to be. To me he isn't in Heywards category and Heyward isn't at that top level either.
 
To answer the question in the thread title, I would give BJ 2 more at bats to prove himself.
 
cajunrevenge said:
The Dback fans hated the trade because they were dissapointed in the return they got for Upton. Strangely when I visited their blogs to see how they were reacting to Justin's hot start it turned out they had been through this before. The cock tease hot streak that makes you think he has finally figured it out to the month long suckfest that were his slumps. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't already have automatic out BJ Upton but I can't stand to watch two of them in the lineup at the same time.
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OMG, Justin is 10 times the player Prado is and its not even close... good lord. Last year was no contest... Upton was light years ahead of Prado and even less streaky.
 
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