Is it too early to give up on BJ Upton?

Dalyn said:
I know what it means. And it shows that he doesn't perform at his best when starting.
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And means nothing when you are talking about whether he's a starter or bench player.

Miguel Cabrera is 100+ as a starter and 150+ as a sub, maybe he's a great bench player too.

Also, Heyward has numbers lower than usual in Sept/Oct; do you happen to like him?
 
gilesfan said:
And means nothing when you are talking about whether he's a starter or bench player.

Miguel Cabrera is 100+ as a starter and 150+ as a sub, maybe he's a great bench player too.

Also, Heyward has numbers lower than usual in Sept/Oct; do you happen to like him?
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Heyward's numbers dip A LITTLE below his average. They don't tank. But if it continues year after year after year after year? Yeah. It would get irritating.
 
gilesfan said:
So you expect his numbers to change whether hes playing 2B, 3B, LF, or pinch hitting?
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Yes. I think some positions take more out of some players. He is clearly a better overall player at 2B, for example. I don't think that goes for every player, but it is true for more than just Prado.
 
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And here we go again. Look. You like him as a starter. I don't. I've stated my reasons many times, and he continues to put up the stats that personally bother me, so my opinion hasn't changed.
 
No need to worry about keeping cool at the stadium with the Braves in town. The Upton's & Dan the Fan create enough of a breeze with the whiffs of their bats to knock your hat off.
 
I'm encourage by BJ today. He fouled off a few balls and put the ball in play once. Can only get better from here.
 
Dalyn said:
His career #'s as a 3B - .274 .326 .373 .699 So, for his career he is a below average 3B by your own measure.
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You know good and damn well those #'s are heavily weighted towards his 2011 season, of which he played hurt most of the season and sucked.

By your logic, I bet you would say McCann is a .700ish OPS catcher due to his 2012 season.
 
Carp said:
You know good and damn well those #'s are heavily weighted towards his 2011 season, of which he played hurt most of the season and sucked.

By your logic, I bet you would say McCann is a .700ish OPS catcher due to his 2012 season.
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Actually most of Prado's PT at 3B (38.4%) came last year, 2011 accounted for only 12.9% of his innings at 3B.

That split is highly silly, as if you look at last year, he had a .709 OPS at 3B, .810 at 2B and .831 in LF which is silly to blame on a single position.

That said, I guess Dalyn is really sticking to his trolling or he really believes it. Prado is a good player. 2-3 WAR type. We're way better off with Justin.
 
No, he should be moved from the 2-hole though.

But someone did bring up a good point of not having Gattis/BJ/Uggla hitting back to back to back :Alone:

I suppose we could do JH/JU/FF/CJ/Uggla/Simmons/Gattis/BJ?
 
Too soon to move him from the 2 hole. Makes Freddi look indecisive. Give him a month then move him to number 8 and forget about him.
P.S. Every time Hale gets the ball he pitches well...so far anyway
 
Heyward said:
It's not, i'm one of the few Fredi supporters on here but having BJ in the 2-hole needs to stop/end ASAP.
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It is even hurting Justin. The lineup is so much stronger with Heyward, Justin, Freeman, and Johnson at the top. Just consider whatever we get out of Uggla, Gattis, BJ, and Simmons a bonus.
 
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