Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I think BJ second is a worse decision because Simmons hadn't failed so miserably previously.
Is it too early to give up on BJ Upton?
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I think BJ second is a worse decision because Simmons hadn't failed so miserably previously.
Millwood1Hitter
Anytime Now Frankie...
Has there ever been 2 more overrated hyped players of this century than the uptons?
I mean they're talented and athletic no doubt, but man, the lack necessary baseball skills to survive and thrive at this level of play.
I mean they're talented and athletic no doubt, but man, the lack necessary baseball skills to survive and thrive at this level of play.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Yes.
Countless guys.
At least they've both been successful, and Justin will likely continue to be. There's a lot of hype for guys who never pan out.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
Stop posting.
Wilson Betemit took a while. The shortstop of the future only cut it as a utility guy.
Andy Marte is flipping burgers somewhere
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
The Upton brothers have a combined fWAR near 40. What about the 2 prospects around Justin Upton in 2006, Delmon Young and Brandon Wood. Or around him in 2007 with Wood again and ANdrew Miller.
Some more names. Kaz Matsui, Greg Miller, Jesse Foppart, Ian Stewart, Casey Kotchman, Andy Marte, Jeremy Hermida, Lastings Milledge, Cameron Maybin, Daisuke Matsuzaka, and I could go on were top 10 prospects who didn't amount to much. They're hardly very good major league careers.
And because I was bored, Adding all the players I listed above, removing Miller (no MLB experience) and Marte (negative fWAR) all those players combined for a 29.7 fWAR, 8 players totaling about 10 fWAR lower than Bossman and Justin.
Man I remember when Lastings Milledge was the next big thing.
I'm thrilled that for the most part aside from injuries Heyward has lived up to his potential somewhat.
I'm thrilled that for the most part aside from injuries Heyward has lived up to his potential somewhat.
Milledge was supposed to be McCutchen before McCutchen.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Plenty of prospects bust. We're very very lucky that we haven't had a big miss recently. Our last big miss was Hanson because of his shoulder. Pre-Shoulder injury he was a fine pitcher but he wasn't meant to last unfortunately.
bravesnumberone
Well-known member
BJ owes the Braves a Joe Dimaggio-type hitting streak for his suckage. Good grief. How many straight fast balls does the man have to swing through?
Or watch go by...
Or watch go by...
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
No, he should be moved from the 2-hole though.
But someone did bring up a good point of not having Gattis/BJ/Uggla hitting back to back to back
I suppose we could do JH/JU/FF/CJ/Uggla/Simmons/Gattis/BJ?
Put Uggla in the 2 hole. Uggla walks a ton. Would be nice to actually have guys on base in front of Freeman and Johnson.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Talk about a busted prospect. Remember of the years Chipper got hurt and Marte got the call and everyone just assumed that Marte would take the job and run with it and force Chipper back to the OF? Yeah what a joke that turned out to be.
AUTiger7222
Called Up to the Major Leagues
That is the most frustrating part about watching Justin Upton play. He can't hit BP fastballs right down the pipe.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
he made over 1.6 million playing baseball in salary alone
not counting signing bonuses etc
so i would say, over 2 million.
i hope he was smart enough to not end up flipping burgers with that much money
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
The bummer with him, was he never quite put it all together. He had all the skills of a Beltre/Ramirez 3B with the pop and glove, he showed no major weaknesses though his K rate was a touch high, he showed very promising power to balance that. In reality the reason most got high on Marte, was because when he made the jump to high A and AA his BB rate soared. And in his jump to AA his power soared. People saw th epower spike and immediately thought David Wright is my guess who just had a similar power spike and was adding to the major league level. With Marte sadly I think his issues wound up being in his head. From his climb from rookieball to AA his OPS rose every step of the way, remained about equal with AA in AAA, then he never hit those levels again for a long time when he should have destroyed AAA everytime he was sent down there.
I wouldn't consider Hanson a bust because injuries derailing a career isn't really fair. He had the talent and was pitching really really well. I'd say our last true bust would be Marte. Luckily everyone since him (for the most part) has panned out and contributed somehow.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
Last year first 4 games BJ had a walk and a sb in the first 4 games. This time its 1 hit and 1 sb in the first 4 games. If he fails to hit his weight again he can't possibly be the starting cf in 2015 right?
True. He's not a basketball player so there is hope he saved some of it.