Jace

I was riding the Jace sets the pace bandwagon hard last year. Not sure wtf happened to start this year but I still believe.
 
cajunrevenge said:
You sweet summer child. Do you remember the streak years? We tried that any good reliever can close thing for about 15 years and it cost us numerous championships.
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no we tried "any reliever can close' none of them were any good. The math is pretty clear that good relievers make good closers, bad relievers don't. Why is it that every year there are 10-15 guys who close and do well out of the blue? Then a few years later they are done and a new group takes over. it's because any good reliever can close, but most relievers have high volatility from one year to the next. It is rare to have a relief arm who is consistently good for several years.(closing or not)

it'salso why paying big $$$ for closers is a terrible idea
 
bravos4evr said:
no we tried "any reliever can close' none of them were any good. The math is pretty clear that good relievers make good closers, bad relievers don't. Why is it that every year there are 10-15 guys who close and do well out of the blue? Then a few years later they are done and a new group takes over. it's because any good reliever can close, but most relievers have high volatility from one year to the next. It is rare to have a relief arm who is consistently good for several years.(closing or not)

it'salso why paying big $$$ for closers is a terrible idea
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I think you could save yourself a lot of needless debate by simply qualifying your original statement with "most" good relievers. That would be true, but even you seem to acknowledge that there are exceptions. Further, I don't disagree with you on it being a bad idea (esp. for us) to pay big $$$, for a closer. The only time I'd do that is for someone special, a once in a generation type talent like Kimbrel or Venters before Fredi broke him. And no Chapman isn't that special IMO, I rather have Miller from the Yankees than him (just saying).
 
Braves1976 said:
I think you could save yourself a lot of needless debate by simply qualifying your original statement with "most" good relievers. That would be true, but even you seem to acknowledge that there are exceptions. Further, I don't disagree with you on it being a bad idea (esp. for us) to pay big $$$, for a closer. The only time I'd do that is for someone special, a once in a generation type talent like Kimbrel or Venters before Fredi broke him. And no Chapman isn't that special IMO, I rather have Miller from the Yankees than him (just saying).
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well sure, most is better than any, but it appears that "any" is true. The history of the game is riddled with flash in the pan closers
 
mfree80 said:
I have thought since last year that we might be selling Jace a little short. If he keeps this up, and ups his power stroke a little, I think he has to be considered as potentially more than a utility guy. That would be a happy problem to have.
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Based on what he did in the minors before making the Majors, I see no reason he cannot stay a starter in MLB if he keeps improving. But either way a left handed Prado or Infante type player is fine too. Plus I think he brings a lot to the clubhouse outside of his play as he is one of those with good character that always plays hard. This is why I would rather keep him than trade him. However, if I am a team that needs a second baseman I'm asking the Braves about Jace Peterson.
 
There's no reason to trade Jace. He's a great player to have and he could provide insurance for Swanson or Albies. He's a great utility guy and essentially acts as your back-up SS since you're starting 2B would actually be your backup SS.
 
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