January 6th insurrection thread...

this is a sworn affidavit and not random BS to a reporter or tv show.
From where I sit another brick in the wall
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expect to see this "smart tactic" used quite a bit in the coming days
 
Exactly what the lawyer was hoping you fools would think.
He will get off easy now despite being a moron.
 
57Brave said:
this is a sworn affidavit and not random BS to a reporter or tv show.
From where I sit another brick in the wall
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expect to see this "smart tactic" used quite a bit in the coming days
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You know how many sworn affidavits their were of election fraud?

We’re those bricks in your wall?
 
57Brave said:
this is a sworn affidavit and not random BS to a reporter or tv show.
From where I sit another brick in the wall
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expect to see this "smart tactic" used quite a bit in the coming days
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I’m not a lawyer, but I’d imagine it’s really difficult to convince a jury that someone was lying about their personal motivation. It doesn’t necessarily have to be true to be effective. There’s plenty of evidence publicly available that would help his supporters claim *they thought* they were doing what he wanted.
 
mqt said:
I’m not a lawyer, but I’d imagine it’s really difficult to convince a jury that someone was lying about their personal motivation. It doesn’t necessarily have to be true to be effective.
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Respect sir.

I wish the opposing side was filled with nothing but people who had your reasoning skills despite not agreeing with your political ideology at all.
 
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thethe said:
You know how many sworn affidavits their were of election fraud?

We’re those bricks in your wall?
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certainly were.

But, those swearers of the affidavits were not being charged with multiple felonies and using their comments as a defense.
I am certain the over 60 judges in those election fraud cases considered those affidavits before summarily ignoring them.
 
57Brave said:
certainly were.

But, those swearers of the affidavits were not being charged with multiple felonies and using their comments as a defense.
I am certain the over 60 judges in those election fraud cases considered those affidavits before summarily ignoring them.
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So what you’re saying is that they risked more than this bozo who was about to get jail time?

I AGREE!
 
57Brave said:
that will probably come up when and if charges are brought against Trump.
But, you have to admit this isnt a good look
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Avoiding a simple question that you know the answer too.

The fact that you think it’s not a good look is why they are using it as a defense.
 
i think "just following orders" is probably not going to be a successful defense strategy...just a feeling
 
57Brave said:
that will probably come up when and if charges are brought against Trump.
But, you have to admit this isnt a good look
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I cannot fathom someone being dumb enough to try to charge Trump with incitement. Mitch McConnell effectively had it right, in that Trump has some moral culpability for what happened, but not in a legal sense of incitement. I do believe that there were people there that thought Trump would support the actions that they took. That’s completely different from Trump openly calling for them to do it or even actually endorsing it. We can agree that Trump had the ability to get out ahead of this and squash it, and failed to do so for political gain. We just appear to disagree with whether that is illegal or not.
 
mqt said:
I cannot fathom someone being dumb enough to try to charge Trump with incitement. Mitch McConnell effectively had it right, in that Trump has some moral culpability for what happened, but not in a legal sense of incitement. I do believe that there were people there that thought Trump would support the actions that they took. That’s completely different from Trump openly calling for them to do it or even actually endorsing it. We can agree that Trump had the ability to get out ahead of this and squash it, and failed to do so for political gain. We just appear to disagree with whether that is illegal or not.
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agree on legal culpability for incitement

I do think he is in quite a bit of legal jeopardy re his phone calls and other attempts to overturn the Georgia election results...Lindsey Graham might be too depending on the existence of contemporaneous notes or other records of what transpired
 
nsacpi said:
agree on legal culpability for incitement

I do think he is in quite a bit of legal jeopardy re his phone calls and other attempts to overturn the Georgia election results
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Maybe one day we can get an actual independent audit and then when they get to the point of no chain of custody of over 300k ballots that will be fun.
 
mqt said:
I cannot fathom someone being dumb enough to try to charge Trump with incitement. Mitch McConnell effectively had it right, in that Trump has some moral culpability for what happened, but not in a legal sense of incitement. I do believe that there were people there that thought Trump would support the actions that they took. That’s completely different from Trump openly calling for them to do it or even actually endorsing it. We can agree that Trump had the ability to get out ahead of this and squash it, and failed to do so for political gain. We just appear to disagree with whether that is illegal or not.
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incitement charged as a lesser charge and plead away.

I mean, how is incitement defined--- from where I sit ( i could be completely wrong here) this is text book.
the only incitement charges I remember was the Chicago 8.
some were convicted but thrown out on appeal
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He encouraged, they complied.
but
Seems a hard charge to prosecute
 
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thethe said:
Maybe one day we can get an actual independent audit and then when they get to the point of no chain of custody of over 300k ballots that will be fun.
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even if there is an audit that satifies your predictions , he still interfered with an electoral count
 
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