John Hart Turns Down GM Job

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Sources: John Hart has turned down the Braves' offer to be GM. For now, Atlanta focused on AGM John Coppolella and Royals GM Dayton Moore.
 
Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan John Hart has turned down the Braves' offer to be GM. For now, Atlanta focused on AGM John Coppolella and Royals GM Dayton Moore.
 
Do not want Moore. He lucked his way into the world series after years of dumb moves. Remember this is the guy who have Francoeur 2 years guaranteed money after both the Braves and Mets gave up on him.
 
yeezus said:
One thing I'll say for Moore is, that Shields trade is reallllly working in his favor at the moment.
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The guy has been at KC for what, 8-9 years and has one playoff appearance to show for it? Something tells me he was probably extremely close to getting canned had the Royals not lucked out and won that Wild Card Game.
 
NYCBrave said:
The guy has been at KC for what, 8-9 years and has one playoff appearance to show for it? Something tells me he was probably extremely close to getting canned had the Royals not lucked out and won that Wild Card Game.
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In fairness to Dayton, KC never gave him that much money to spend until the Shields trade.

I don't think he would've been canned after the Wild Card game. First Royals' playoff appearance in almost 30 years and back to back winning seasons highly doubtful he'd get fired.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Do not want Moore. He lucked his way into the world series after years of dumb moves. Remember this is the guy who have Francoeur 2 years guaranteed money after both the Braves and Mets gave up on him.
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Writers around the program praised Frenchy for teaching the younger players how to be responsible Big League players. One of hose two years he won Comeback Player
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Kinda like when Bobby signed Charlie Leibrant to school Glavine,Smoltz and Pete Smith etc
 
BJ#1FAN said:
In fairness to Dayton, KC never gave him that much money to spend until the Shields trade.

I don't think he would've been canned after the Wild Card game. First Royals' playoff appearance in almost 30 years and back to back winning seasons highly doubtful he'd get fired.
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Yea but, he came very close to having nothing to show for that Shields trade. They've been fortunate that Will Myers hasn't panned out so far (he was supposed to be a legit star), but Shields is gone after this year.
 
The Dayton 3 step system to success.

1. Aquire ****ty team

2. Add more ****ty players to an already ****ty team

3. Go to world series.
 
57Brave said:
Writers around the program praised Frenchy for teaching the younger players how to be responsible Big League players. One of hose two years he won Comeback Player
~ I think ~

Kinda like when Bobby signed Charlie Leibrant to school Glavine,Smoltz and Pete Smith etc
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That explains the Royals low obp.
 
The Royals were kind of unlucky with pitching injuries over the years and their hitters took longer to develop than they had hoped. Some of that should be placed on Dayton and his staff for sure but you can't argue iwth the results right now. He has made some great trades/signings/picks in his tenure there. The Royals are super young and I don't see why he would leave his position there.
 
thethe said:
The Royals were kind of unlucky with pitching injuries over the years and their hitters took longer to develop than they had hoped. Some of that should be placed on Dayton and his staff for sure but you can't argue iwth the results right now. He has made some great trades/signings/picks in his tenure there. The Royals are super young and I don't see why he would leave his position there.
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Because it's taken 9 years to get one playoff appearance?? Most GM's don't get that amount of time. Plus when you look at Hosmer, Moustakas and Butler not developing like hoped, it's even more troubling. I think what they're doing now is an aberration.
 
We will see after this year if they are a one hit wonder. I hope they can keep Shields because the team is young in general and their core positional talent should be even better next year.

Its not easy to win in baseball when you can't spend with the big boys.
 
thethe said:
We will see after this year if they are a one hit wonder. I hope they can keep Shields because the team is young in general and their core positional talent should be even better next year.

Its not easy to win in baseball when you can't spend with the big boys.
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We are 17th in payroll and they are 18th this year. Wren has arguably made way better moves than Dayon Moore in the span of their tenures over the past 5+ years.
 
NYCBrave said:
Because it's taken 9 years to get one playoff appearance?? Most GM's don't get that amount of time. Plus when you look at Hosmer, Moustakas and Butler not developing like hoped, it's even more troubling. I think what they're doing now is an aberration.
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Dan O'Dowd is one that comes to mind that was long tenured but only made a rare playoff appearance every now and then.

And again, I think with Kansas City, since ownership has low expectations and doesn't put that much money into the team it's not going to matter anyways.

They've already said Shields isn't gonna be an option for them when he hits free agency.
 
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