cajunrevenge
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/docu...91e2-49c96f54696b.pdf?itid=lk_inline_manual_4
Here is the ruling. The court does not rule on weigh in on whether his actions were official acts or not. They divide official acts between discretionary and ministerial and rules that a President does not have discretionary authority to violate federal laws. They rule against his argument that potential post-Presidency charges would have a chilling effect on Presidents willingness to act because criminal charges are specifically mentioned as a possibility for any President that is impeached and removed, thus the possibility was always there for post Presidency criminal charges for acts while President. They cite the pardon of Nixon by Ford as admitting he could have been criminally charged. They cited Clintons agreement to sanctions with the Independent counsel for an agreement he wouldnt be prosecuted after leaving office for perjury. And they even cite Trumps impeachment defense in 2021 which said the appropriate course of action was criminal charges and not an impeachment. LOLOLOLOLOL. The court says a President knowing he can be charged for breaking federal law is a benefit to the country as it incentivizes them to obey the law. The court disagrees a former President could be subject to political prosecution citing that it has never happened before in our long history, that prosecutors are obligated to act ethically, and that the grand jury/probably cause element protects against it.
"And during President Trump’s 2021 impeachment proceedings for incitement of insurrection, his counsel argued that instead of post-Presidency impeachment, the appropriate vehicle for “investigation, prosecution, and punishment” is “the article III courts,” as [w]e have a judicial process” and “an investigative process . . . to which no former officeholder is immune.”
So Trump when impeached "You cant impeach if I committed a crime it should be handled in criminal courts" Then Trump once criminally charged "You cant charge me with a crime it should be handled by impeachment".
Here is the ruling. The court does not rule on weigh in on whether his actions were official acts or not. They divide official acts between discretionary and ministerial and rules that a President does not have discretionary authority to violate federal laws. They rule against his argument that potential post-Presidency charges would have a chilling effect on Presidents willingness to act because criminal charges are specifically mentioned as a possibility for any President that is impeached and removed, thus the possibility was always there for post Presidency criminal charges for acts while President. They cite the pardon of Nixon by Ford as admitting he could have been criminally charged. They cited Clintons agreement to sanctions with the Independent counsel for an agreement he wouldnt be prosecuted after leaving office for perjury. And they even cite Trumps impeachment defense in 2021 which said the appropriate course of action was criminal charges and not an impeachment. LOLOLOLOLOL. The court says a President knowing he can be charged for breaking federal law is a benefit to the country as it incentivizes them to obey the law. The court disagrees a former President could be subject to political prosecution citing that it has never happened before in our long history, that prosecutors are obligated to act ethically, and that the grand jury/probably cause element protects against it.
"And during President Trump’s 2021 impeachment proceedings for incitement of insurrection, his counsel argued that instead of post-Presidency impeachment, the appropriate vehicle for “investigation, prosecution, and punishment” is “the article III courts,” as [w]e have a judicial process” and “an investigative process . . . to which no former officeholder is immune.”
So Trump when impeached "You cant impeach if I committed a crime it should be handled in criminal courts" Then Trump once criminally charged "You cant charge me with a crime it should be handled by impeachment".