Legalization thread

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I dont understand your argument if you are trying to say people arent arrested for marijuana possession. If they arent arrested now then what harm is there from legalization? Its literally the same thing except people buy their marijuana for legal businesses that pay taxes and employ people instead of gangs and cartels. At the least do you not think the time and money spent on prohibition could be better spent on violent crimes? I would guess we could put 2 cops in every school to deal with school shooters with the money saved from prohibition.
 
Google.com is my source, takes 5 seconds.


I dont understand your argument if you are trying to say people arent arrested for marijuana possession. If they arent arrested now then what harm is there from legalization? Its literally the same thing except people buy their marijuana for legal businesses that pay taxes and employ people instead of gangs and cartels. At the least do you not think the time and money spent on prohibition could be better spent on violent crimes? I would guess we could put 2 cops in every school to deal with school shooters with the money saved from prohibition.

Legalization has not only not stopped the black market but has made it grow.

Legalization will also encourage more usage in younger population which much stronger strains than has ever been made available.

Psychosis is a real issue with marijuana as its a psychedelic.
 
SO the report from the ACLU does not make a determination of the history of the individual and therefore you have no idea what other crimes the arrested individual committed. Therefore the whole report is meaningless to address the issue that non-criminal users get arrested for simple possession.

It also doesn't go into detail as to the level of possession because when you have 25 grams or more its possession with intent to sell.

The history of the individual? You think cops are only arresting people for simple possession because they previously robbed a bank or killed people? Theres far more to all this than being in prison. A person can be arrested and convicted without getting jail time and they get a yellow star to carry around when they look for a job. You can get probation and you fail to pay the fines or fail a drug test for marijuana and get sent to prison for probation violation. A lot of people get caught in that trap of probation. It wont say they went to prison for simple possession. You can make these claims all you want but there arent **** loads of lawyers advertising specifically for possession of marijuana for no reason. The recent news about legalization is clogging up the google right now for me to get more statistics and details.
 
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I'd love to hear how you think making marijuana legal benefits society aside from tax dollars.

There’s the tremendous amount of money and resources associated with the direct enforcement of the law, from police activity to arrest to prosecution to potential incarceration. There’s the tremendous opportunity cost that comes with those activities. There’s the higher price of marijuana associated with the black market risk premium. There’s the lack of transparency for consumers who have no idea what they’re ingesting. There’s the temptation of the black market luring young people away from more productive activities. There’s the addition costs associated with those who’s lives are disrupted by a marijuana charge, from legal fees to a loss of current/future employment to family disruptions.

The benefits to legalization are avoiding all of the above, not to mention an increase in personal freedom.

Show me where prohibition of marijuana has met any of its stated goals. How long do you keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result?
 
The sterilization of the minds of more of our youth with far stronger strains will be catastrophic to the global economy.

Thats the opportunity cost.
 
Legalization has not only not stopped the black market but has made it grow.

Legalization will also encourage more usage in younger population which much stronger strains than has ever been made available.

Psychosis is a real issue with marijuana as its a psychedelic.


Taxes the legal weed to holy hell is why the black market still exists. No one is going to buy from a gang member off the street when they could buy from 7-11 unless the prices are significantly higher in the legal market.



Every kid in high school could get marijuana even with it being illegal. I am fine if you want to go with that logic I just object to only treating marijuana by this standard. Do you not agree we should have one standard for substances and judge them based on the science and not political propaganda?


And marijuana is in no way shape or form a psychedelic.
 
The sterilization of the minds of more of our youth with far stronger strains will be catastrophic to the global economy.

Thats the opportunity cost.



And you based this off a scientific study? Or what you heard a talking head say on the TV?
 
Taxes the legal weed to holy hell is why the black market still exists. No one is going to buy from a gang member off the street when they could buy from 7-11 unless the prices are significantly higher in the legal market.



Every kid in high school could get marijuana even with it being illegal. I am fine if you want to go with that logic I just object to only treating marijuana by this standard. Do you not agree we should have one standard for substances and judge them based on the science and not political propaganda?


And marijuana is in no way shape or form a psychedelic.

Weed is not a psychedelic? You sure about that?

If you lower the taxes on legal weed then it completely blows up the cost benefit analysis. Thats the whole point and why the black market is stronger than ever despite legalization.
 
Weed is not a psychedelic? You sure about that?

If you lower the taxes on legal weed then it completely blows up the cost benefit analysis. Thats the whole point and why the black market is stronger than ever despite legalization.

No it doesn’t because anyone doing an honest cost-benefit analysis doesn’t include taxes (which is just a transfer from one group of people to another) in the calculation.
 
No it doesn’t because anyone doing an honest cost-benefit analysis doesn’t include taxes (which is just a transfer from one group of people to another) in the calculation.

Its a usage tax and not an arbitrary tax on wealth or work. Its also not a regressive usage tax such as a gas tax which disproportionately impacts middle class and lower.

You don't have to use pot. You have to use tax or eat food.
 
Weed is not a psychedelic? You sure about that?

If you lower the taxes on legal weed then it completely blows up the cost benefit analysis. Thats the whole point and why the black market is stronger than ever despite legalization.


Yes, I am sure. Never in my 15 years of smoking have I or have I run across anyone who hallucinated from marijuana.
 
Yes, I am sure. Never in my 15 years of smoking have I or have I run across anyone who hallucinated from marijuana.

Well maybe you are just hanging with people that are smoking shwag.

But it is 100% a hallucinagentic and debating otherwise is just nonsense. You aren't going to trip like if you eat a 1/8 of shrooms but it is still a hallucenigtic.
 
Well maybe you are just hanging with people that are smoking shwag.

But it is 100% a hallucinagentic and debating otherwise is just nonsense. You aren't going to trip like if you eat a 1/8 of shrooms but it is still a hallucenigtic.



I find mixed results when looking that up, but I have never heard of it. Do you agree that we should treat all substances by one single standard?
 
I find mixed results when looking that up, but I have never heard of it. Do you agree that we should treat all substances by one single standard?

I don't agree - Heroin should not be treated the same as weed.

Alcohol should be treated more harshly than weed.
 
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