LOL at the Fast Food Strike

That wasn't my implication, JPX.

Honestly, I do this at least once a year. It's my serenity now moment. I leave the board and come back in about a week or so. I like everyone on here, so it's nothing personal. I usually don't mind the kind of stuff I'm complaining about either, but about once every year or so I think I just need a break. It's more about me then anyone on here.
 
SPeaking of fast food, I stayed away from it for about 3-4 months but tonight I couldn't resist after seeing this thread all week.

Went to Checkers and got myself 2 American Double Melts, hold onions with their 2 for $4 special.

Highly suggest it to anyone out there. It's glorious. :Drool:

EDIT: Oh and make sure when you get it the bread is toasted and not soggy. If it's soggy it's gross but the bread being firmly toasted is what makes it a winner. Texture.
 
weso1 said:
That wasn't my implication, JPX.

Honestly, I do this at least once a year. It's my serenity now moment. I leave the board and come back in about a week or so. I like everyone on here, so it's nothing personal. I usually don't mind the kind of stuff I'm complaining about either, but about once every year or so I think I just need a break. It's more about me then anyone on here.
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When you say you're leaving, does this mean your'e going outside the internet? How is that possible? I've only been to the edge, not the outside.
 
Starting to get defining numbers - battle lines / bargaining points being drawn:

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http://ourfuture.org/20131218/auto-draft-14

The fight over raising the minimum wage will be one of the defining battles for the 2014 elections. As the floor – the minimum wage – falls out from under Americans, big majorities of voters in both parties want the minimum wage raised. President Obama and congressional Democrats support an increase to $10.10, indexed to inflation. Republicans and plutocrats want to obstruct this.

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My guess is $9.00 - 9.75 per hour is the settling point
 
I can't justify eating any fast food other than chick-fil-a. Their spicy chicken with chick-fil-a sauce is wayyyy too good, and no other fast food compares. So, if I'm going to waste a day of good eating, I go there. No one else is worth it in comparison.
 
It will never happen, but I would be fine with eliminating the minimum wage. Let the market decide wages. Anyone with a job is worth only what he or she is paid. If they were worth more, they would get it elsewhere. People who work at McDonald's for $8 an hour agree that's what they are worth or they would get more at another job.
 
McCannFan said:
It will never happen, but I would be fine with eliminating the minimum wage. Let the market decide wages. Anyone with a job is worth only what he or she is paid. If they were worth more, they would get it elsewhere. People who work at McDonald's for $8 an hour agree that's what they are worth or they would get more at another job.
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What positive outcomes would you expect to see?
 
If minimum wage is increased so should everyone else wages. Then all the prices will increase, because the middle class owners would be the ones hurting and possibly drop to lower class as a result.
 
So here's a video, where all these folks say they support a higher min wage... but when asked to contribute to that wage, they say absolutely no.

 
AerchAngel said:
If minimum wage is increased so should everyone else wages. Then all the prices will increase, because the middle class owners would be the ones hurting and possibly drop to lower class as a result.
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I'm not a fan of massive Minimum wage hikes. I think a more creative tax system is what the country needs. Basically one where people can skirt by on stock options and pay lower taxes and you take that money and create middle class jobs. Hell yes the government is needed in times of economic strife to create jobs, as the market rebounds the people leave the government to the better paying private sector and it's all good. Unfortunately we have 2 extremes that are all too often dealt with with lifer government employees who want more money to do the same crappy job and no creation in the private sector only pocketting of profits. Basically everyone loses no matter what you try to do until we as consumers hold the rich accountable.
 
Julio3000 said:
What positive outcomes would you expect to see?
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The market setting entry-level wages instead of them being arbitrarily set by bureaucrats in Washington. If wages sank to $3 an hour, it would be because people agreed to work for that. Employers require labor, so at some point they have to come to an agreement with employees on wages. Given that it is here to stay, I would not immediately raise the minimum wage, but I would adjust it about every 3-5 years based on inflation.
 
thethe said:
Whats BS is that there should be enough money for that plus extentions. Liberty is sitting on more profit than ever. Its an absolute sham.
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Took this from the Tanaka thread on the main board.

Interesting how when Liberty media is sitting on more profits than ever off our team, we want them to raise the payroll so we can be more competitive.

But when fastfood workers demand an overall wage increase when their mothership has raked in bigger profits than ever, we chastise them for being out of their minds.
 
KeithLockhart said:
Took this from the Tanaka thread on the main board.

Interesting how when Liberty media is sitting on more profits than ever off our team, we want them to raise the payroll so we can be more competitive.

But when fastfood workers demand an overall wage increase when their mothership has raked in bigger profits than ever, we chastise them for being out of their minds.
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Franchise fees aren't cheap. My friend in town owns three national chain restaurants and his living means are lower than mine. I asked in a round about way, you move out to where I am at. He said he can't afford it. I was like no way, but considering his belongings, where he lives, still driving a hoopty and working, he would get killed by a wage increase. He hires mainly college students and most of them been there awhile.
 
McCannFan said:
The market setting entry-level wages instead of them being arbitrarily set by bureaucrats in Washington. If wages sank to $3 an hour, it would be because people agreed to work for that. Employers require labor, so at some point they have to come to an agreement with employees on wages. Given that it is here to stay, I would not immediately raise the minimum wage, but I would adjust it about every 3-5 years based on inflation.
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So, if those entry-level wages sank to (picking the number you suggested) $3/hr, what results would we see?
 
KeithLockhart said:
Took this from the Tanaka thread on the main board.

Interesting how when Liberty media is sitting on more profits than ever off our team, we want them to raise the payroll so we can be more competitive.

But when fastfood workers demand an overall wage increase when their mothership has raked in bigger profits than ever, we chastise them for being out of their minds.
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It should be treated more like stock in a company. Profits increasing? Good job, here's the reward. Instead, those in charge only reward themselves (taking their salaries from 15 mil to 20 mil) while continuing the same low rate for their minons.
 
Julio3000 said:
So, if those entry-level wages sank to (picking the number you suggested) $3/hr, what results would we see?
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Deflation. Prices would have to drop to make the buying power of $3 then match about $8 now. Why would anyone accept such a drastic pay cut. Businesses need employees, so if they can't get them at $3 an hour, wages will go to a level where labor can be acquired.
 
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