Gallo would be a fine replacement for Duvall who hit 237 in 2020.
Looking Ahead - The 2020 Offseason Thread
- Thread starter clvclv
- Start date
Gallo would be a fine replacement for Duvall who hit 237 in 2020.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Do the Braves have a roster spot open so they can take Maitan in the Rule 5 draft?
Let's not bring back any of Coppys mistakes this year.
Not sure how that could be true - the fact that Gallo would cost at least SOME level of prospect capital makes him quite a bit less attractive even if you're not a Duvall believer IMO.
I'm certainly not crazy enough to say Gallo couldn't be helpful to some degree, but exactly what would he provide to justify trading an arm for him if he and Duvall make the same amount of money (as projected)? We're not likely talking a "throway arm" like what it might've cost to get Rosario.
Southcack77
Well-known member
.277 with the platoon advantage.
I don't think you want to compare their 2020s anyway.
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
I think thewupk was being a tad sarcastic once again.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Re: Gallo
He was brought up as someone with depressed value (his 2020 was rough) that AA might target. AA has done this the previous two years with JD and Ozuna. Both had some issues that caused the Braves to get them on reasonable deals.
The Braves need to bring in two bats IMO. I would certainly take Gallo as the lessor bats that needs to be brought in. You could say he is Duvall's or Neck's replacement. Doesn't really matter. The Braves will need bodies out there. Gallo being brought in to replace Ozuna and be the main bat addition would not be good.
Duvall vs Gallo. Their projected arbitration salaries are similar. CLV, you're right that overall Gallo would cost more due to the prospect capital needed to land him. However you have to account for the fact that Duvall would need a platoon partner to be useful anyways in the everyday lineup. Gallo doesn't have a platoon weakness.
He was brought up as someone with depressed value (his 2020 was rough) that AA might target. AA has done this the previous two years with JD and Ozuna. Both had some issues that caused the Braves to get them on reasonable deals.
The Braves need to bring in two bats IMO. I would certainly take Gallo as the lessor bats that needs to be brought in. You could say he is Duvall's or Neck's replacement. Doesn't really matter. The Braves will need bodies out there. Gallo being brought in to replace Ozuna and be the main bat addition would not be good.
Duvall vs Gallo. Their projected arbitration salaries are similar. CLV, you're right that overall Gallo would cost more due to the prospect capital needed to land him. However you have to account for the fact that Duvall would need a platoon partner to be useful anyways in the everyday lineup. Gallo doesn't have a platoon weakness.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I'll say. I know his negative reaction to my suggestion that we pick up Maitan in the Rule 5 was totally in jest.
True - just not sure I'd give up what it would take to get Gallo when you could've just spent ~ $5 million to add a platoon-mate for Duvall and held onto the arms to throw in and sweeten the pot if a legitimate upgrade happened to present itself. Post-hype arms like Newk/Touki/Wilson don't hold a ton of value, but adding one of them probably pushes a number of potential deals over the finish line. Might as well keep the depth if you're not getting a longer term and more obvious upgrade.
I've always been the one with a lack of patience who wants to put SPs with nasty stuff in the pen early, but am finally starting to soften a bit in that regard. Morton's a perfect example of why you give those guys lots of opportunities to prove that they're not going to be late bloomers.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
Kiley McDaniel may or may not know anything.
His projections have Ozuna at 3/60 and Springer at 4/108. If those are the numbers, I'd really rather have Springer. We would likely put Springer in a corner, where he'd be plus. I think he'll hit. When the DH eventually comes you can have Waters on the team. If you had 4 OF (3 OF and one DH each game) of Waters, Pache, Acuna, Springer....that would be amazing.
Next year you could even keep Pache down if he's not hitting and have Acuna and Springer as CF options. if there is no DH you could put one of them at CF and find a cheap platoon for LF. Assuming we have 30-40 million left, which is a huge assumption.
I love Ozuna. But I'm really worried how his athletic ability has declined. I'm not sure he's going to age well on a 3 year deal. I'd rather have Springer at 35 than Ozuna at 33.
His projections have Ozuna at 3/60 and Springer at 4/108. If those are the numbers, I'd really rather have Springer. We would likely put Springer in a corner, where he'd be plus. I think he'll hit. When the DH eventually comes you can have Waters on the team. If you had 4 OF (3 OF and one DH each game) of Waters, Pache, Acuna, Springer....that would be amazing.
Next year you could even keep Pache down if he's not hitting and have Acuna and Springer as CF options. if there is no DH you could put one of them at CF and find a cheap platoon for LF. Assuming we have 30-40 million left, which is a huge assumption.
I love Ozuna. But I'm really worried how his athletic ability has declined. I'm not sure he's going to age well on a 3 year deal. I'd rather have Springer at 35 than Ozuna at 33.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I agree. I don't think the number will be that low. Nor do I think AA wants to sign a multiyear deal for a 30 y/o with waters as an option.
More of a thought exercise. I would rather pay Springer 4/108 than ozuna 3/60.
Heyward
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br>'13, '14, '15 (Co-Winner
If we have the DH, i'm fine with Ozuna for 3/60.
PawPawMaxwell
Called Up to the Major Leagues
Springer is a tremendous asset but several problems get in the way. Enders money, Will Smiths money, Freddie extension, and MAYBE more importantly how do you pay/extend Soroka and Fried?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Gallo put up a .401 wOBA in 2019.
2020 stats all suffer from small sample issues to some extent. Plus different players processed playing in the middle of a pandemic differently. I would give 2019 stats more weight for virtually all players in making 2021 projections.
2020 stats all suffer from small sample issues to some extent. Plus different players processed playing in the middle of a pandemic differently. I would give 2019 stats more weight for virtually all players in making 2021 projections.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
i could tell too
So small sample size doesn't apply to 2019 Gallo? He only played in 13 more games (71 more PAs) in 2019 than in 2020, and that 70 game sample is the hottest offensive stretch of his professional career (much like the first month of Duvall's 2020). If you treat Gallo's 2019-2020 as a full season, it looks exactly like Duvall's 2020 - smoking hot first half followed by an ice cold second half.
Again, not arguing that he wouldn't contribute at least something - just not sure what you'd give up for someone who has as many legitimate questions about him as Gallo does when you could just write a check for Duvall/Pederson/Rosario/Mazara.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I did look at that. Two points:
1) I would weight an equal sized 2019 sample more for reasons alluded
2) 41 and 40 home runs in 2017 and 2018, the last two seasons he played something close to a full season...you don't do that with food stamps
He'll be 27 next season. His prime. He's got some old player skills (walks a lot) and probably won't age well. But we're not talking about signing him into his 30s.
wOBA by year:
2017 .364
2018 .343
2019 .401
2020 .297
which one does not belong? i'm happy to get 2017-2018 Joey Gallo
Last edited:
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Next to Boone's Farm, I prefer:
