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Southcack77 said:
I guess, but do people think Baldwin is going to be the centerpiece of a WS team after the current core is gone?

I don't see the timing working out for keeping him to make much sense.
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Maybe not but if he is an impact bat doesn’t that help the current and future team? With our payroll and guys locked up like we do I don’t see the window closing any time soon. I know people say the window closes when Acuña leaves and I don’t see it. We won in 21 without him and made it to the playoffs this year without him. Sure he’s an amazing player but life goes on.
 
You don’t trade an impact prospect just because he might be blocked. You can let him learn a new position. Or just build more value. You can also let him come up and get experience in the bigs and either trade the more expensive player or cash his value from the bigs out.

I wouldn’t trade Baldwin for a 1 year rental just because I think he is a backup catcher. That is very poor player valuation theory.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
You don’t trade an impact prospect just because he might be blocked. You can let him learn a new position. Or just build more value. You can also let him come up and get experience in the bigs and either trade the more expensive player or cash his value from the bigs out.

I wouldn’t trade Baldwin for a 1 year rental just because I think he is a backup catcher. That is very poor player valuation theory.
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You move him in the right deal. He isn’t some 65 FV prospect like Acuña.
 
CyYoung31 said:
You move him in the right deal. He isn’t some 65 FV prospect like Acuña.
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I didn't say you don't. But you don't treat him like a 50FV either. I don't think his value potential is tapped yet. I think he can max out at 60 if he repeats last year, or comes up and has some success in the bigs.
 
CyYoung31 said:
You move him in the right deal. He isn’t some 65 FV prospect like Acuña.
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There really isn't a player available worth making that trade for. Putting a lot of prospect capital into a pitcher is a poor investment, imo. Particularly when decent pitching is widely available this off-season.

And there aren't any young, impact bats with control available.
 
Carp said:
There really isn't a player available worth making that trade for. Putting a lot of prospect capital into a pitcher is a poor investment, imo. Particularly when decent pitching is widely available this off-season.

And there aren't any young, impact bats with control available.
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Who said anything otherwise about any of that?
 
Tapate50 said:
Blame the pitching staff

It’s been made apparent they did not like pitching to him.

Wild stuff
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Remember that Maddux always had to have his personal catcher. I'm relatively sure than when the pitchers are having a pitchers-only night on the town, some of them are complaining about the teams catchers' framing and game-calling abilities.
 
Carp said:
There really isn't a player available worth making that trade for. Putting a lot of prospect capital into a pitcher is a poor investment, imo. Particularly when decent pitching is widely available this off-season.

And there aren't any young, impact bats with control available.
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This is the correct take. He's certainly not untouchable by any means.

Baldwin is a good position prospect, and like all good position prospects they should only be traded for impact MLB players at a position of need.

Of course, that means the argument shifts to how impactful the MLB talent needs to be, and I agree there nothing apparently available now that warrants trading Baldwin to get. Crochet was the only player so far who was in that category, and even he was questionable. Maybe Tucker too, but 1 year of a guy is rough for a top prospect.
 
Rosenthal now saying the Jays are listening to offers for Bichette. Going into his age 27 year he's the exact type of trade/extend target AA loves.

He has been an .800+ OPS bat his entire career, so it's hard to imagine his age 26 season was anything other than a fluke.
 
Twins have been fielding calls for Pablo Lopez. He also seems like a guy that we match up well for. He has 3/63 remaining on his current deal, and while that is below market for a SP with his track record, it also isn't a steal. I think he could be had for a deal headlined by AJSS or Waldrep.
 
Enscheff said:
Rosenthal now saying the Jays are listening to offers for Bichette. Going into his age 27 year he's the exact type of trade/extend target AA loves.

He has been an .800+ OPS bat his entire career, so it's hard to imagine his age 26 season was anything other than a fluke.
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I’ve been on the Bichette train for a while. If AA can make it work I’d be all over it. The Jays will probably want a lot.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
You don’t trade an impact prospect just because he might be blocked. You can let him learn a new position. Or just build more value. You can also let him come up and get experience in the bigs and either trade the more expensive player or cash his value from the bigs out.

I wouldn’t trade Baldwin for a 1 year rental just because I think he is a backup catcher. That is very poor player valuation theory.
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If you're trying to win you probably would.

And my assumption is you'd try to get a lower cost player with more than one year of control at a position of need. Else why would you need to throw in that surplus value.
 
Yeah, this narrative I see from some people that he’s just some fungible back up catcher is pretty silly. He has true potential to be an impact bat.
 
I could easily see a post-Ozuna world where Baldwin rotates between C and DH while Acuna rotates through RF and DH to keep both guys rested and their bats in the lineup.
 
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I really wish Nacho could play SS. I’d take a light hitting OBP machine in heartbeat if they could play a competent SS.
 
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