Mark Bradley: The Braves Are Doing Their Part. Liberty Media Needs To Step Up

SJ24 said:
But they've still been willing to go into the luxury tax.

Thunder would have been a dynasty had they done the same. Remember, they had Harden, Durant, and Westbrook.
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I don't believe that was the Warriors went above the luxury task until this past season. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't follow these things that closely.

I am still wondering what Liberty kicking in some extra dough at the deadline would get us. Anyone have an answer? Mr. Bradley mentioned Hamels and Liriano. Is that the point of all this? Seriously?
 
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nsacpi said:
I don't believe that was the Warriors went above the luxury task until this past season. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't follow these things that closely.

I am still wondering what Liberty kicking in some extra dough at the deadline would get us. Anyone have an answer? Mr. Bradley mentioned Hamels and Liriano. Is that the point of all this? Seriously?
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2 more solid relievers? Haha
 
We are just entering our window to compete for championships. Save the prospects for upcoming years and lets see how far the kids can go.
 
nsacpi said:
I don't believe that was the Warriors went above the luxury task until this past season. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't follow these things that closely.

I am still wondering what Liberty kicking in some extra dough at the deadline would get us. Anyone have an answer? Mr. Bradley mentioned Hamels and Liriano. Is that the point of all this? Seriously?
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I don't really understand the premise of the article. But I guess you can wonder how much cash we have if any to spend. So if we go to get a reliever and end up having to ask the other team to pay the contract it would cost better prospects.
 
NYCBrave said:
I don't really understand the premise of the article. But I guess you can wonder how much cash we have if any to spend. So if we go to get a reliever and end up having to ask the other team to pay the contract it would cost better prospects.
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Most of the situational lefties we are likely looking at (Avilan, Loup, Claudio) don't make hardly anything beyond minimum. So they can be acquired without reference to budget.

Acquiring someone to bolster the left side of the infield will probably require asking the other team to pick up salary. Asdrubal Cabrera for example has 4M left on his salary for 2018. I'm sure the Mets would be willing to eat most of that to enhance the prospect return. But even then we're not talking about a top 10 guy. AA can do what he needs to do without asking for a budget increase.
 
nsacpi said:
Most of the situational lefties we are likely looking at (Avilan, Loup, Claudio) don't make hardly anything beyond minimum. So they can be acquired without reference to budget.

Acquiring someone to bolster the left side of the infield will probably require asking the other team to pick up salary. Asdrubal Cabrera for example has 4M left on his salary for 2018. I'm sure the Mets would be willing to eat most of that to enhance the prospect return. But even then we're not talking about a top 10 guy. AA can do what he needs to do without asking for a budget increase.
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Who is "we?"
 
nsacpi said:
I am still wondering what Liberty kicking in some extra dough at the deadline would get us. Anyone have an answer? Mr. Bradley mentioned Hamels and Liriano. Is that the point of all this? Seriously?
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nsacpi said:
Most of the situational lefties we are likely looking at (Avilan, Loup, Claudio) don't make hardly anything beyond minimum. So they can be acquired without reference to budget.

Acquiring someone to bolster the left side of the infield will probably require asking the other team to pick up salary. Asdrubal Cabrera for example has 4M left on his salary for 2018. I'm sure the Mets would be willing to eat most of that to enhance the prospect return. But even then we're not talking about a top 10 guy. AA can do what he needs to do without asking for a budget increase.
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I agree with most of this, but we absolutely need to find another veteran starter somewhere. We have exactly 1 pitcher on our staff that threw more than 180 innings last year and that is JT (who most on here want sent to scrap heap). It doesn't have to be Hamels or Degrom, but someone like Liriano or Happ would be ideal. Hell James Shields is having an OK season and I'm sure we could pick him up for for someone like Wes Parsons.
 
depley said:
"The Braves payroll is perfectly in line with their attendance and revenues"

yes and no.... while the reported number of 120M+ might be, the actually money on the field amounts to a paltry 84M, if you include those on the DL, 56M without.
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Huh? Are you suggesting any other team in MLB doesn't count dead payroll towards their payroll limit?
 
nsacpi said:
Most of the situational lefties we are likely looking at (Avilan, Loup, Claudio) don't make hardly anything beyond minimum. So they can be acquired without reference to budget.

Acquiring someone to bolster the left side of the infield will probably require asking the other team to pick up salary. Asdrubal Cabrera for example has 4M left on his salary for 2018. I'm sure the Mets would be willing to eat most of that to enhance the prospect return. But even then we're not talking about a top 10 guy. AA can do what he needs to do without asking for a budget increase.
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The reason given for the Braves not acquiring the BP arm from KC was that his remaining salary would blow almost all of the Braves available payroll? He was owed something like $5M at the time, so that's a pretty good number to use when we talk about these acquisitions.
 
Enscheff said:
:facepalm:

Remember that whole "debt servicing" thing?

The Braves have a middling payroll because they have middling revenues. It was nothing to do with Liberty Media.
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But the debt servicing thing was never exactly explained to us, it was just mentioned in one article in pretty vague terms. All speculation as to what we're dealing with and what it's even a result of.
 
NYCBrave said:
But the debt servicing thing was never exactly explained to us, it was just mentioned in one article in pretty vague terms. All speculation as to what we're dealing with and what it's even a result of.
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Got it...

We can speculate about LM's commitment to the Braves based on a bunch of vague statements, but we can't do the same with regards to other constraints on payroll.

Sorry. Commence with the bitching over LM as owners.
 
Enscheff said:
:facepalm:

Remember that whole "debt servicing" thing?

The Braves have a middling payroll because they have middling revenues. It was nothing to do with Liberty Media.
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So 8th in revenues is considered middling? Okay then

If we're going on revenues and attendance, the team should be around 11th or 12th in payroll. Instead they're 21st. The debt servicing, of course, is why. Since they're still building the new ST complex, this isn't likely to change soon. There's no reason to expect that our payroll will increase for the foreseeable future
 
Enscheff said:
Got it...

We can speculate about LM's commitment to the Braves based on a bunch of vague statements, but we can't do the same with regards to other constraints on payroll.

Sorry. Commence with the bitching over LM as owners.
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What are you even talking about? Most of what we even have to go off here is pure speculation. The only facts we have our actual revenue, actual attendance, and actual payroll.
 
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