Medlen, Beachy, Schlosser non-tendered

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Interesting... Wonder what the details are. If Meds is healthy we all know what he's capable of. Per bleacher report. Comments?
 
Maybe it's just me, but I would stay so far away from Medlen I'd need to renew my passport. I'd be slightly more inclined to tender Beachy and stick him in the bullpen when healthy.
 
50PoundHead said:
Maybe it's just me, but I would stay so far away from Medlen I'd need to renew my passport. I'd be slightly more inclined to tender Beachy and stick him in the bullpen when healthy.
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I agree, Medlen will simply cost too much for someone coming off a second Tommy John. Plus we are rebuilding/retooling and he is a free agent after this season (a season he is unlikely to play much more than half either way, and even then I doubt it is more than a bullpen role).

That said, I agree with you both in that it does make sense to tender Beachy as he is still cheap and not a free agent till 2017. We can probably re-sign him for around 1 million no problem and at most he'd make about 1.4 via arbitration.
 
I love the idea. I think Medlen is good. I also know 2nd TJ return rates are bad.

arb is 80% of last year or more.

Sign a multi year deal with some reachable incentives. Guarantee him like 8 million over 4 years. Add incentives to pay him if he becomes a valuable player again.
 
Russ2dollas said:
I love the idea. I think Medlen is good. I also know 2nd TJ return rates are bad.

arb is 80% of last year or more.

Sign a multi year deal with some reachable incentives. Guarantee him like 8 million over 4 years. Add incentives to pay him if he becomes a valuable player again.
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Bad idea IMO, we cannot afford to waste 8 million on Medlen even over 4 years knowing how bad the success rate is for someone coming back from a second TJ.
 
I think you guys are jumping the gun, I'm sure the Braves are aware of the risk and low success rate of pitchers coming back from 2nd TJ surgeries, so I doubt that there is much in the way of guarenteed money, but are willing to stick to a loyal player and an intense competitor and give them an incentive laden deal and see what happens.
 
I read somewhere yesterday that the Braves were more confident in Medlen's chances at returning from a second TJ than Beachy's because Medlen isn't a power pitcher (more reliant on finesse, location, command, secondary pitches) and has experience working out of the bullpen, which is where I think the team would most likely utilize him for a good portion of 2015 if he's tendered -- that, and they considered his track record more valuable than BB's.

All said, I agree with 76' about the financial aspect of bringing Medlen back. It's risky.
 
Hawk said:
I read somewhere yesterday that the Braves were more confident in Medlen's chances at returning from a second TJ than Beachy's because Medlen isn't a power pitcher (more reliant on finesse, location, command, secondary pitches) and has experience working out of the bullpen, which is where I think the team would most likely utilize him for a good portion of 2015 if he's tendered -- that, and they considered his track record more valuable than BB's.

All said, I agree with 76' about the financial aspect of bringing Medlen back. It's risky.
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I read that too, but I thought it was mostly speculation by Bowman. We should find out what they're going to do soon enough regardless.
 
MLBRosterMoves
@MLBRosterMoves
The @Braves do not tender 2015 contracts to RHPs Kris Medlen, Brandon Beachy and Gus Schlosser; they are now free agents.

David O'Brien
@DOBrienAJC
#Braves tendered contracts to LHPs Mike Minor, James Russell and RHP David Carpenter, their only other remaining arb-eligibles

Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
As mentioned earlier today, the #Braves have discussed bringing Medlen back with a deal that might include an option for 2016.

Mark Bowman
@mlbbowman
The #Braves might give Russell a shot to spend at least the early weeks of ST stretching out as a starting pitcher

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Didn't see the Schlosser non-tender coming, although no great loss I suppose.
 
A bit surprised about Schlosser. He has some ROOGY potential.

Roster now at 37. We could dabble in the Rule 5. Delino DeShields would not be a back pick.
 
nsacpi said:
A bit surprised about Schlosser. He has some ROOGY potential.

Roster now at 37. We could dabble in the Rule 5. Delino DeShields would not be a back pick.
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The more I have thought about your Delino DeShields idea the more I like it. I really believe it would be a great move because I like his potential to be a solid centerfielder with an interesting combination of power and speed by 2017. I figure till he is ready he can at worst be a decent 4th outfielder this coming season and then if not ready by 2016 he can spend the year in AAA and should be ready by 2017 IMO.

PS: I am also a bit surprised about Schlosser for the same reasons.
 
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman · 16s 16 seconds ago
The #Braves will continue to work on deals w/ both Medlen & Beachy w/ the hope they might prove successful in return from a 2nd TJ surgery.

My comments: I don't see why they'd have any issue re-signing Beachy if they're truly interested. He'll only cost about a million or little more tops and maybe not even that since he is coming off a second TJ. Further, I'd not give Medlen or Beachy much more than that in guaranteed money personally.

PS: I wish them both the best in making it back from a second TJ no matter where they end up. They're both very likable players IMO.
 
The move with Schlosser is just odd considering he isn't arb eligible and has options left. So we have Gil and Cunniff on the 40-man but no room for Schlosser or Martin.
 
nsacpi said:
The move with Schlosser is just odd considering he isn't arb eligible and has options left. So we have Gil and Cunniff on the 40-man but no room for Schlosser or Martin.
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Agreed, but I knew they needed to make room on the 40-man with it filled up before today's moves. That is esp. true if they still plan to bring back both Medlen and Beachy on Major league deals. I really hope they are considering your Rule V Draft idea too, though I honestly doubt it.
 
Yeah, Schlosser is a head-scratcher. As a non-arby player, the contract he would have been eligible for next year would be vanishingly small and not much over the minimum. If you tender Gus a contract and need the roster spot a few weeks later, you just cut him without any real pain.

The only interpretation I can come up with is that the front office is just completely, totally, 100 percent convinced there is no chance Schlosser will ever be a successful Major League pitcher.
 
MadduxFanII said:
Yeah, Schlosser is a head-scratcher. As a non-arby player, the contract he would have been eligible for next year would be vanishingly small and not much over the minimum. If you tender Gus a contract and need the roster spot a few weeks later, you just cut him without any real pain.

The only interpretation I can come up with is that the front office is just completely, totally, 100 percent convinced there is no chance Schlosser will ever be a successful Major League pitcher.
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That would be the only reason, and I think they're right, he showed nothing. One more guy we can sign, now. Maybe something is brewing that will require roster space.
 
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