Hudson2
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Not to my knowledge. There was no money exchanging hands. Like everything else, you just have to find the right partner. But even adding say 5 million a year to help soften the blow would be a huge win for us.
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Not to my knowledge. There was no money exchanging hands. Like everything else, you just have to find the right partner. But even adding say 5 million a year to help soften the blow would be a huge win for us.
Took bad money back - saved roughly $11,350,000 the year he was traded, and the Angels paid him 3/$63 million after that season.
Have to remember though, Wells was still passable defensively in CF at that time where Kemp needs to be guarding the water bucket.
With Kopech and Dunning on the horizon, I kinda wonder if a Kemp/Fried offer to the White Sox for Shields would get us out from under him. There's your veteran that doesn't get in the way of Soroka/Wright/Allard, and Suddenly you've got money to spend on Donaldson or Charlie Blackmon next winter depending on what Riley shows you this year. I remember someone mentioning Shields a while back, but don't think it was in that context.
Hold Adams and start him in LF to keep from starting Acuna's clock, and see what AA can get for Matt or Nick closer to the deadline.
That's an awful lot to give up to get out from under Kemp's 2019 money, but it could be worth it in the end. I certainly wouldn't want to take on contracts that wouldn't expire after this year to get rid of him.
Excellent point. AA will likely scrap the moronic and tired "we don't pay to get rid of players" mantra the ex-dinosaurs used to chant during cave painting sessions.
AA is probably the best GM we could have realistically expected the Braves to pick. He isn't a cutting edge analytics guy by any means, but he just spent almost 2 years in the Dodgers FO so he must have learned something. Hopefully...
Southcack77
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I do not understand the rationale of not eating money on Kemp, a player you'd (Hart) had spent the previous paragraph acknowledging wasn't very good. I only assume that was mostly posturing. If not, you were right. It was dumb.
The Braves have never eaten money to get rid of a player. They preferred to tie valuable pieces to bad contracts because they were unable to value those pieces properly. Braves Way.
The Braves never gave out no-trade clauses or opt-outs because they refused to acknowledge the fact the 90s were over. Braves Way.
The Braves refuse to understand position prospects are worth more than pitching prospects because they won with 3 HOF pitchers 20 years ago. Braves Way.
The Braves never manipulated service clocks because they didn't understand how much more valuable 600 PAs of a star 27 year old was than 50 PAs of a 20 year old. Braves Way.
That's what I mean by "dinosaur". AA may not be the most analytical guy, but at least he operates in the modern day game of baseball. Hopefully this means the Braves Way will move on from the 90s.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
There are rationales for holding on to Kemp.
1) With proper usage (replaced for defense and base running as appropriate, try to maximize share of at bats against lefties) and rest (sit on day games after night games), he can be healthier and more productive than he was in 2017. With some restoration of value, it might be easier to trade him mid-season or next off-season.
2) Keeping him and Muk gives us a fig leaf for sending Acuna down for a month or so. This is not the strongest justification but I think it comes into play at the margins.
3) The team is lacking in power, and will be even more lacking without Kemp. Again not the strongest justification. I want good players out there period, without giving too much weight to how they are contributing. But at the margins you do want to weigh complementarity of player skill sets.
1) With proper usage (replaced for defense and base running as appropriate, try to maximize share of at bats against lefties) and rest (sit on day games after night games), he can be healthier and more productive than he was in 2017. With some restoration of value, it might be easier to trade him mid-season or next off-season.
2) Keeping him and Muk gives us a fig leaf for sending Acuna down for a month or so. This is not the strongest justification but I think it comes into play at the margins.
3) The team is lacking in power, and will be even more lacking without Kemp. Again not the strongest justification. I want good players out there period, without giving too much weight to how they are contributing. But at the margins you do want to weigh complementarity of player skill sets.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
This delay is insane. I’m guessing AA/Braves pretty much know what it is at this point.
I have to assume this starts this year. I'd be shocked if Acuna isn't kept down now.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
That’d be a really bold lie.
Do we know for certain that was the FO's mantra and not some sort of pressure from ownership?
CyYoung31
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Dinosaurs painted?
Could you rephrase that? I don't quite understand what you're saying.
We know MLB interviewed Gordon again just last week. That's not 'weeks ago.' Also seems strange that around the same time as the interview, we heard that the punishment had been delayed until early December.
Hudson2
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Rosenthal did a segment on Alex A becoming our new gm and how great of a farm system he inherited. Then he made a remark and said even if Maitan wasn’t in it and made a weird face like he knew something.
Could easily have been referring to a certain phase of the investigation - Hart's involvement, etc. - without meaning everything has been wrapped up.
Remember that time BS said this? Good times.