Megathread: Braves lose Maitan, Bae and 10+ plus International Sanctions.

Millwood1Hitter said:
I could care less at this junction whether or not we lose Maitan as it appears that he's going to be a bust. We solve that problem pretty quickly by signing the guy from Baltimore next offseason.
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After 137 ABs, eh?

Maitan (Age 17 in the Appy and GCL) - 137 ABs, .241/.290/.340/.630, 8 2Bs, 1 3B, 2 HRs

Chipper (Age 18 in the GCL) - 140 ABs, .229/.321/.271/.592, 1 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR

No doubt it's time to cut bait with Maitan.
 
Does your boss give a **** where you live and what you eat? The answer is NO. He pays your salary and you go to work.

Owners pay the salaries, front office oversees operations and makes decisions, on field personnel and coaches oversee daily on field duties and tasks, and players are to play the ****in game and perform or else go home.
 
WaitingFor2017 said:
I'm tired of the players sticking their noses in the front office business whether it is vouching for a manger or a general manager.
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I can understand why they lobby for a given manager, seeing they know him and know their roles because of that (in an ideal situation, not saying that is the case with Snitker), but weighing in on who is GM borders on the ridiculous.
 
50PoundHead said:
I can understand why they lobby for a given manager, seeing they know him and know their roles because of that (in an ideal situation, not saying that is the case with Snitker), but weighing in on who is GM borders on the ridiculous.
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It could also say what they think about being around Hart.
 
CJ9 said:
It could also say what they think about being around Hart.
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The fact that the bodacious one saw fit to tweet that tidbit provides reason to believe that Hart's seat is getting hotter. I don't think he would have tweeted that if someone other than the players had not given him reason to do so.
 
nsacpi said:
The fact that the bodacious one saw fit to tweet that tidbit provides reason to believe that Hart's seat is getting hotter. I don't think he would have tweeted that if someone other than the players had not given him reason to do so.
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I agree. I think that was preparation that Hart may be gone soon.
 
50PoundHead said:
I can understand why they lobby for a given manager, seeing they know him and know their roles because of that (in an ideal situation, not saying that is the case with Snitker), but weighing in on who is GM borders on the ridiculous.
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Let me get this straight...it's absolutely acceptable and justified when a bunch of us nobodies who know no one personally go nuts and rant about who should or should not be running things for the organization, but it's "ridiculous" for players that are around those people daily to weigh in when asked???

I'll agree that they shouldn't be making the decision - inmates running the asylum and all - but not at least asking for their input if they care to share their opinion is pretty obtuse IMO. Kinda like building a house - the General Contractor in charge of the project has his subs that he typically uses, but you can bet your sweet *ss he checks with the people he's building the house for to make sure they wouldn't rather use a particular HVAC (or electrical or whatever) before making that decision.

Just make sure you handle the players the right way when you ask - "Freddie, do you have a preference based on discussions you've had with other players across the league? We'd certainly like to hear what the players think before we make a final call. There are obviously lots of things that need to be considered when making a hire of this magnitude - and the reputation some of these guys have amongst the players is one of them."
 
The smartest teams are the best teams. This is what the Braves are up against:

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/10/2...a-world-series-built-for-the-information-age/

This blurb: "In 2015, ESPN the Magazine tried to rate all professional teams on the sophistication of their analytic efforts"

Is talking about this article:

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12331388/the-great-analytics-rankings

Where the Braves are ranked in the bottom 8 teams, and classified as "Skeptics". They were grouped with the DBacks, who have since fired their entire FO, and the Rockies, who brought in Birdich who then fired Weiss for not being

Stats savvy.

In 2015 the Braves had an analytics group consisting of one dude and an intern. They want to hire Weiss to be the stats voice to Snit after being fired for not knowing stats.

So...yeah.
 
Enscheff said:
The smartest teams are the best teams. This is what the Braves are up against:

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/10/2...a-world-series-built-for-the-information-age/

This blurb: "In 2015, ESPN the Magazine tried to rate all professional teams on the sophistication of their analytic efforts"

Is talking about this article:

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12331388/the-great-analytics-rankings

Where the Braves are ranked in the bottom 8 teams, and classified as "Skeptics". They were grouped with the DBacks, who have since fired their entire FO, and the Rockies, who brought in Birdich who then fired Weiss for not being
Stats savvy.

In 2015 the Braves had an analytics group consisting of one dude and an intern. They want to hire Weiss to be the stats voice to Snit after being fired for not knowing stats.

So...yeah.
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Pitch sequencing is mentioned in the first article. There was a comment in another thread saying advanced analytics wasn't needed to know that you need to throw fewer fastballs to the Yankees hitters. But I think there is a much more subtle question of how many consecutive curves you can throw before a hitter starts hitting them. And that at its heart is a great topic to research.
 
nsacpi said:
Pitch sequencing is mentioned in the first article. There was a comment in another thread saying advanced analytics wasn't needed to know that you need to throw fewer fastballs to the Yankees hitters. But I think there is a much more subtle question of how many consecutive curves you can throw before a hitter starts hitting them. And that at its heart is a great topic to research.
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I can't find it now, but there was an article written about pitch tunneling that compared pitch pairs for each pitcher and derived how good they were based on the difference in distance between the 2 pitches at the point of decision, and then at home plate. The idea being that pitches that looked similar at the point of decision and then were in different places at home plate were "tunneled".

The whole concept of tunneling is something Maddux pretty much invented, and we are just now able to start analyzing how to best benefit from it.
 
Enscheff said:
I can't find it now, but there was an article written about pitch tunneling that compared pitch pairs for each pitcher and derived how good they were based on the difference in distance between the 2 pitches at the point of decision, and then at home plate. The idea being that pitches that looked similar at the point of decision and then were in different places at home plate were "tunneled".

The whole concept of tunneling is something Maddux pretty much invented, and we are just now able to start analyzing how to best benefit from it.
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https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/pitch-tunneling-is-it-real-and-how-do-pitchers-actually-pitch/
 
If you want to call it pitch tunneling or not, that was what Kershaw was doing masterfully last night. His FB was bottom of the zone most of the night. so when the slider came, it stayed on the same plane as his FB and didn't break until it was too late. The hitter basically had to guess and hope.
 
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