Meme & Quote Thread

50PoundHead said:
These types of protests rarely succeed because the cultural hegemon always attempts to turn the narrative to its advantage.
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goldfly said:
well, first, you do see the 2 differences of your post and why they aren't the same for what i replied to, right?

2nd, well, it's been a whole week, i know you are an american but it might take more than a week of a protest to fix a problem that is a couple hundred years old but maybe i'm just crazy

and it will take more than a week cause some people think there isn't a problem with this country at all while at the same time saying we need to "make it great AGAIN". weird
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Apologies for using the word "only." Let's call it "dominant" instead.

What does not standing for the Anthem have to do with police/race relations? The connection is tenuous, which is being proven by the reactions to his protest.
 
The guy wearing socks depicting police as pigs clearly isn't genuinely interested in having a mature conversation about this issue.
 
acesfull86 said:
Apologies for using the word "only." Let's call it "dominant" instead.

What does not standing for the Anthem have to do with police/race relations? The connection is tenuous, which is being proven by the reactions to his protest.
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that isn't the only difference but cool

i will ask, Why do you stand for anthem?

the connection isn't tenuous

the reactions from the protest are what ultra nationalistic people do and it's scary
 
Julio3000 said:
My concern?

You post a meme that contains an implications that:

1) Seth Rich was a whistleblower and

2) that he was murdered by some dark Hillarycentric force.

When challenged, your response was that to your knowledge, everything in the meme was accurate.

Which I suppose is true, technically. Also true: that "sturg33 is potentially a closet Marxist." Dude, as far as I know, that statement is accurate.

When asked if you specifically believe the implications, your response is that governments kill people all the time, which strikes me as only tangentially relevant, if at all.
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The point of the meme that resonated with me is that the democrats are attacking wikileaks as a terrorist organization.

Obama used to love whistle blowers... now he seems to think theyre terrorists.

It's unfortunate.
 
goldfly said:
that isn't the only difference but cool

i will ask, Why do you stand for anthem?
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Typically out of respect for the military and I think about my family members and friends who have served or are still serving.

The rest of the time I stand to honor racist police officers.
 
acesfull86 said:
Typically out of respect for the military and I think about my family members and friends who have served or are still serving.
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i don't see how not standing for it isn't being disrespectful to them

if they fought for freedom, then they fought for him to protest

it's great going through the hashtag #veteransforkaepernick on twitter. should give it a look
 
goldfly said:
i don't see how not standing for it isn't being disrespectful to them

if they fought for freedom, then they fought for him to protest

it's great going through the hashtag #veteransforkaepernick on twitter. should give it a look
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Doesn't the fact that so many ex or present members of the military have felt compelled to speak out on Kaepernick, whether for or against, kind of prove my point that people generally associate the Anthem with the military? And thus, rather than recognizing his protest as a stance on police/race relations, people are interpreting a message different than the one he is trying to get across?
 
acesfull86 said:
The guy wearing socks depicting police as pigs clearly isn't genuinely interested in having a mature conversation about this issue.
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when one side doesn't think there is any need for police reform

i don't think they are ready for a mature conversation either
 
acesfull86 said:
Doesn't the fact that so many ex or present members of the military have felt compelled to speak out on Kaepernick, whether for or against, kind of prove my point that people generally associate the Anthem with the military? And thus, rather than recognizing his protest as a stance on police/race relations, people are interpreting a message different than the one he is trying to get across?
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i think the hyper nationalism in this country is beyond scary

thus maybe why we get people who for some reason tie them together.

that isn't a reason to change your message though imo.

the flag is the most prominent thing to resemble america or a country and it's policies. thus why it is burnt or protested.

i have never once took an American protest against the flag to be against the military (unless you find one that says "**** the troops" while doing so if it's out there)
 
sturg33 said:
The point of the meme that resonated with me is that the democrats are attacking wikileaks as a terrorist organization.

Obama used to love whistle blowers... now he seems to think theyre terrorists.

It's unfortunate.
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OK, fine. Quite a reasonable point. Mixing it up with half-baked accusations of MURDER MOST FOUL kinda defeats the purspose, yeah?
 
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