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exceptions to every rule. Yall probably think I am anti-cop but if they were actually used properly I would double the amount of cops on the streets. All evidence shows that the only real factor in crime rate is the perceived likelyhood to be caught. In placed like Tokyo they have a ****load of cops and they actually solve petty crime like someone stole your bike.
 
cajunrevenge said:
exceptions to every rule. Yall probably think I am anti-cop but if they were actually used properly I would double the amount of cops on the streets. All evidence shows that the only real factor in crime rate is the perceived likelyhood to be caught. In placed like Tokyo they have a ****load of cops and they actually solve petty crime like someone stole your bike.
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Tokyo has a lot of cops? Where are they? If not for the influx of foreigners, they wouldn't need cops walking the streets.

Japan's low crime rate is the result of a combination of factors, not the least of which is a culture that holds people accountable from kindergarten for the slightest infractions. Japan has rules on top of rules, rules just for the sake of learning how to follow rules. People are taught from the beginning not to break rules, and for the most part, they don't.
 
Tokyo has the worlds largest police force. The crime tate has fallen 14 years in a row. I admire Japanese culture more than any other on this planet but that culture was the same 15 years ago as it is now and crime is at an all time low. I did come across some really disturbing things though, like they have a 99.8% conviction rate. That looks bad but if police and prosecutors acted in good faith a lot of not guilty verdicts wont happen because they wont try a case unless its legit.



I have also been under the impression Japan disnt have a lot of foreigners and were generally pretty hostile to foreigners. Maybe thats jusy from my experience with Japanese wrestling. I highly recommend NJPW to any wrestling fans who arent pre pubescent.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Tokyo has the worlds largest police force. The crime tate has fallen 14 years in a row. I admire Japanese culture more than any other on this planet but that culture was the same 15 years ago as it is now and crime is at an all time low. I did come across some really disturbing things though, like they have a 99.8% conviction rate. That looks bad but if police and prosecutors acted in good faith a lot of not guilty verdicts wont happen because they wont try a case unless its legit.



I have also been under the impression Japan disnt have a lot of foreigners and were generally pretty hostile to foreigners. Maybe thats jusy from my experience with Japanese wrestling. I highly recommend NJPW to any wrestling fans who arent pre pubescent.
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That might be because about 1/2 the freakin' Yakuzas are over here.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Tokyo has the worlds largest police force. The crime tate has fallen 14 years in a row. I admire Japanese culture more than any other on this planet but that culture was the same 15 years ago as it is now and crime is at an all time low. I did come across some really disturbing things though, like they have a 99.8% conviction rate. That looks bad but if police and prosecutors acted in good faith a lot of not guilty verdicts wont happen because they wont try a case unless its legit.


I have also been under the impression Japan disnt have a lot of foreigners and were generally pretty hostile to foreigners. Maybe thats jusy from my experience with Japanese wrestling. I highly recommend NJPW to any wrestling fans who arent pre pubescent.
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lol

This post did not end up where I thought it would. +1 for NJPW though.
 
sturg33 said:
Not a lot of details on anything the public is certain of what happened.

So what was done with the breach?
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Not sure. You want to keep moving the goalposts, though? You challenged the idea that voter databases were hacked. They were. Seems logical to assume, based on what we know, that there would at least be an attempt to leverage that information (as there was with DNC/Podesta emails and stolen oppo research info).

I’d recommend taking a couple of baby steps towards an intellectually honest argument by at least acknowledging that Russian intel agencies did the hacks and that voter info was stolen, even if it’s unclear what the results were. You hid behind the “but there’s no EVIDENCE” thing for long enough that the decent thing to do now is at least admit that now there is evidence.
 
Even better is the GOP Gubernatorial candidate in GA had millions of social security numbers exposed and covered up the suspicious voter activity in the Special Election.
 
Was he the one who ran the office responsible for gun purchase background checks which, like, didn’t run any for months because they were password-locked out of the system?

WTG, Georgia.
 
Julio3000 said:
Not sure. You want to keep moving the goalposts, though? You challenged the idea that voter databases were hacked. They were. Seems logical to assume, based on what we know, that there would at least be an attempt to leverage that information (as there was with DNC/Podesta emails and stolen oppo research info).

I’d recommend taking a couple of baby steps towards an intellectually honest argument by at least acknowledging that Russian intel agencies did the hacks and that voter info was stolen, even if it’s unclear what the results were. You hid behind the “but there’s no EVIDENCE” thing for long enough that the decent thing to do now is at least admit that now there is evidence.
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I think I have taken those baby steps.

Im at the point where:

1. The Russians likely meddled

2. I think every super power does

3. I don't really care

4. If you think they influenced the election, then the election was influenced by what was exposed, not the act itself

I liken this to the Ashley Madison hack. I'm not happy about the privacy intrusion, but I also don't blame the ensuing divorce bc an online account got hacked.
 
You think every superpower (and, er, how many are there?) hacks and disseminates information helpful to one candidate and harmful to another, hacks election databases, hacks one party’s voter analytics tools?

I’m not in the business of determining what votes were influenced and to what degree, but I find 4. to be a really logically fuzzy take. The DNC primary info, etc., was pretty tame stuff, all things considered. But what mattered was the asymmetry of it. One side had it’s dirty laundry aired, the other (which surely has such laundry) did not. It’s also eliding the fact that the Russians also stole voter info and DNC analytics and targeting tools. That’s potentially a different deal altogether than just the emails.
 
Julio3000 said:
You think every superpower (and, er, how many are there?) hacks and disseminates information helpful to one candidate and harmful to another, hacks election databases, hacks one party’s voter analytics tools?

I’m not in the business of determining what votes were influenced and to what degree, but I find 4. to be a really logically fuzzy take. The DNC primary info, etc., was pretty tame stuff, all things considered. But what mattered was the asymmetry of it. One side had it’s dirty laundry aired, the other (which surely has such laundry) did not. It’s also eliding the fact that the Russians also stole voter info and DNC analytics and targeting tools. That’s potentially a different deal altogether than just the emails.
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I think every super power attempts to influence elections.

If you don't you're naive.

WikiLeaks dumped info on both parties.

I don't think any thing I say will ever satisfy you so I've basically moved on from trying.
 
sturg33 said:
I think every super power attempts to influence elections.

If you don't you're naive.

WikiLeaks dumped info on both parties.

I don't think any thing I say will ever satisfy you so I've basically moved on from trying.
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Ok, “influence elections” is a Herculean goalpost-move.

WikiLeaks dumped info on both parties.

[jerkoff motion]

You haven’t moved on from trying. You’ve just never had a compelling point.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Tokyo has the worlds largest police force. The crime tate has fallen 14 years in a row. I admire Japanese culture more than any other on this planet but that culture was the same 15 years ago as it is now and crime is at an all time low. I did come across some really disturbing things though, like they have a 99.8% conviction rate. That looks bad but if police and prosecutors acted in good faith a lot of not guilty verdicts wont happen because they wont try a case unless its legit.

I have also been under the impression Japan disnt have a lot of foreigners and were generally pretty hostile to foreigners. Maybe thats jusy from my experience with Japanese wrestling. I highly recommend NJPW to any wrestling fans who arent pre pubescent.
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I don't know how that number is arrived at, but I read a similar article stating it. If you imply that crime is falling because of a large police presence, as if there are cops all over the place, just standing around watching and deterring crime, that's just not the case in Japan, ime. It's rare to see cops outside of their little neighborhood police boxes and it's almost as rare to see a cop in the police box (little house). They're usually empty. I suspect the number of police is inflated because of Japan's habit of gross over-employment in the bureaucratic ranks.

It takes scores of civil servants to run a socialistic democracy and tens of thousands of people work in my town's city hall. The police department is no different, the main police bldg in my town is about 10 stories high and filled with office workers. Years ago I spent one fretful night in "the orange room" but that's another story.

OTOH, with the 2020 Tokyo Olympics on the way, I'm sure the police presence is going to increase to a police state level soon.
 
largest for any city. I believe as some studies have shown that the perceived certainty of being caught is what reduces crime. Police presence is a big part of that. I have read Japan has a 99.8 conviction rate which is staggeringly high compared to 88% here.




In unrelated news how much would marijuana legalization help Japans baby problem.
 
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