Minor League Thread Part Deux

Carp said:
Unless I'm missing something, Gil has a .926 OPS
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You’re seeing why it’s silly for Msstate to worry… Fangraphs isn’t accounting for today’s game yet… before the game he was at .926 but after an 0-5 today he’s down to .784

Almost like these things swing wildly when there’s hardly any sample
 
zbhargrove said:
Dude… the year has barely started… he has like ~30+ plate appearances. Still has great BB and K rates. Talk about a knee jerk reaction
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Hey, I hope so. Just don't like a 4/20 week when I'm being told he gonna have a meteoric rise. He's still very young, so I'm not saying he won't be good.
 
msstate7 said:
Hey, I hope so. Just don't like a 4/20 week when I'm being told he gonna have a meteoric rise. He's still very young, so I'm not saying he won't be good.
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He’s still hitting the crap out of the ball with great BB and K rates

The average age in A+ ball is 22.7

Gil is just about to turn 20…

Dude had a .900+ OPS yesterday. You’re being a little ridiculous
 
cajunrevenge said:
I'm sorry. Is someone complaining that our 19 year old prospect in High A is only hitting 36% better than league average?
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Hey, hopefully he can maintain that wrc+ over a season bc he hasn't at any level yet. When I look at why Riley, Harris, Acuna, and Ozzie did in the lower levels, they were putting up some 150+ wrc+ seasons.

I'm probably just worried bc I bought into the hype job we were sold on him, and after a hot start, he's trending back to where he's always been. Yall are right (and I said as much) that he's still young and the season is early. Hopefully his numbers trend back up over the next couple weeks. Just until I see him put up a monster offensive season, I'm off the he's-the-next-great-one train. And with him outgrowing SS, his numbers need to look more like Riley's did
 
Acuna same age same level 136 RC+ with only 3 homers in 28 games. Gil has 2 in 8 games. Albies never had a 150+ RC+ at any level above Rookie ball. Riley put up a 110 RC+ at the same level but 1 year older. MH missed his whole age 19 year. Then at 20 put up a 122 RC+ at High A. And didnt have a 150 RC+ at any level other than rookie ball,
 
msstate7 said:
Hey, hopefully he can maintain that wrc+ over a season bc he hasn't at any level yet. When I look at why Riley, Harris, Acuna, and Ozzie did in the lower levels, they were putting up some 150+ wrc+ seasons.

I'm probably just worried bc I bought into the hype job we were sold on him, and after a hot start, he's trending back to where he's always been. Yall are right (and I said as much) that he's still young and the season is early. Hopefully his numbers trend back up over the next couple weeks. Just until I see him put up a monster offensive season, I'm off the he's-the-next-great-one train. And with him outgrowing SS, his numbers need to look more like Riley's did
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1. Those guys did not play SS. Well technically Ozzie did, but that was never going to work out. If Gil was a RFer or a 3b, people wouldn't be quite as high on him.

2. If Gil were already putting up 150 wRC+ seasons in the minors as a SS at his age, he'd be a consensus top 10 prospect in baseball. Not even Jesus Made or Sebastian Walcott have sustained that level of play over a full season in the minors, and both of those guys are consensus top 10 prospects.

3. It's unlikely Gil has the offensive ceiling of most of those guys you listed, save Ozzie and maybe Harris, depending on what version of Harris we are talking about. But that's ok. Gil can be a ~110 wRC+ hitter and still be a 4+ fWAR SS given his speed and defense. Not every prospect has to have an elite offensive profile to be considered a high end prospect.
 
msstate7 said:
Hey, I hope so. Just don't like a 4/20 week when I'm being told he gonna have a meteoric rise. He's still very young, so I'm not saying he won't be good.
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So every week has to be .300+? He’d be the first ever to do it. At least you’re keeping realistic expectations.
 
Carp said:
1. Those guys did not play SS. Well technically Ozzie did, but that was never going to work out. If Gil was a RFer or a 3b, people wouldn't be quite as high on him.

2. If Gil were already putting up 150 wRC+ seasons in the minors as a SS at his age, he'd be a consensus top 10 prospect in baseball. Not even Jesus Made or Sebastian Walcott have sustained that level of play over a full season in the minors, and both of those guys are consensus top 10 prospects.

3. It's unlikely Gil has the offensive ceiling of most of those guys you listed, save Ozzie and maybe Harris, depending on what version of Harris we are talking about. But that's ok. Gil can be a ~110 wRC+ hitter and still be a 4+ fWAR SS given his speed and defense. Not every prospect has to have an elite offensive profile to be considered a high end prospect.
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Yall are probably right, but it's been pretty speculate he will outgrow SS, so I think he needs more offense
 
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cajunrevenge said:
Acuna same age same level 136 RC+ with only 3 homers in 28 games. Gil has 2 in 8 games. Albies never had a 150+ RC+ at any level above Rookie ball. Riley put up a 110 RC+ at the same level but 1 year older. MH missed his whole age 19 year. Then at 20 put up a 122 RC+ at High A. And didnt have a 150 RC+ at any level other than rookie ball,
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Fine, Ozzie was 149 wrc+ at AA age 19
 
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