Monuments
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goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
cool
were they like right next to each other or something?
cause that would be a really good point to show how that group that did that felt
if not, it's a rather silly point you are trying to make imo
but hey, thethe is over there threatening gun violence on people
were they like right next to each other or something?
cause that would be a really good point to show how that group that did that felt
if not, it's a rather silly point you are trying to make imo
but hey, thethe is over there threatening gun violence on people
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
so, they weren't next to each other? that seems like a lot of words to just answer no, they weren't next to each other
i'm glad they are succeeding out there though
even if they aren't tearing down the statue you want torn down
where was the washington one that you are referencing?
cool, i really don't see how having a stance on a lenin statue matters in any ****ing way
speaking of woke cults though and people that have lost their mind, thethe threatened to kill people a few posts ago
i'm glad they are succeeding out there though
even if they aren't tearing down the statue you want torn down
where was the washington one that you are referencing?
cool, i really don't see how having a stance on a lenin statue matters in any ****ing way
speaking of woke cults though and people that have lost their mind, thethe threatened to kill people a few posts ago
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zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Look at sturg promoting damage to private property.
sturg33
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Yes the woke mob cares about whether the property is private or not...
Just like they did in the riots.
I think it's more likely they agree with Lemon ideaology, and thus he is safe
You're on a roll
BedellBrave
It's OVER 5,000!
Darwin statues need to go as well.
Here's a good take, imho, on the confederate ones. It's from a friend:
"This post started as a comment to a post by Rory Tyer about a Confederate statue in Tupelo MS, and which I recommend, and I thought I’d go ahead and post my comment here as well.
I want to start by saying something about myself.
I am, many times over, a son of the Confederacy. My great grandfather Captain Robert Glover Lanham from the Edgefield district of SC for example was a part of Longstreet's division that got sent south by Lee to shore up the situation at Chattanoogo, and after that debacle returned to Pennsylvania, fought with Lee at Gettysburg, and was with Lee through all the horrific battles after Gettysburg even unto Appomattox.
I have always had a tendency to identify myself as a South Carolinian first and an American second. I am a southern boy and for reasons I don't fully understand am proud of it.
I say this to underline the fact that I have no native or instinctive animus towards the south or towards the Confederacy.
I like civil war movies, and when I watch them I tend to identify with the Confederate side and grieve its defeat. If only WE could have rolled the Union flank at Little Round Top...if only....if only...
My home town was burned to the ground as part of Sherman's scorched earth policy. The fire that overtook Columbia was horrific, and I still feel some anger towards those who encouraged it after it started, though how it got started is up for some debate.
And perhaps I should add that we here in SC were the first to secede; the secession documents were signed right here in Columbia. Yep, we started the war.
The point of all that is to say, again, that I feel no instinctive animus towards the south or the Confederacy.
Having said that, I give thanks to God that the Confederacy was defeated. As was manifestly clear in the long and torturous decades leading up to secession, and as is unambiguously clear in all the documents related to secession, my state and my region were built upon the great and most deeply profound and dark evil of chattel slavery. It was brought to SC from Barbados, and it thrived here. The wealth of rice, indigo, and later cotton - crops that made those who could afford to be rich rich, was built upon the back of African slaves. There is no sugar coating this darkness.
The southern cause was an evil cause. I know that thousands upon thousands of southern families lost loved ones, many if not most of whom were conscripted. Not all who fought wanted to and most who fought did not own slaves. Their story is worth telling in a non judgmental way.
But upon the leaders of “the cause" there must finally at last now be a strict judgment. We must not honor men who fought to preserve a way of life that was fundamentally evil. We must not honor statues of these men whose presence adorns our state and county and city parks all over the south.
In my opinion it is time to stand - finally and decisively - with the victims of the Confederacy, the millions of African and Native American men and women who were bought and sold like cattle; whose families were split up at will; who were denied fundamental human rights. How can we acquiesce to honoring men whose purpose in breaking their solemn bond with the other states of the federal union was to preserve a way of life that was deeply and fundamentally evil, the long dark tentacles of which reach right into our present day?
The statues are profoundly offensive to men and women who are now in this day and time our neighbors and fellow citizens, and who are our fellow human beings made in the image of God.
It's time to move on. We lost the war. We lost a way of life. Our cause was, praise God, defeated. I do not wish to hide or deny our history. I do wish to write the next chapter of our story. This chapter needs to be about honoring our African American neighbors more than our Confederate forebears. This chapter needs to include closing the book on our lingering identification with the Confederacy as exemplified in the many statues honoring its leaders and the ones who fought for its cause.
It's time to take down the statues.
And as the scripture says in the book of Hebrews chapter 3, citing Psalm 95:
"Today, if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion."
Here's a good take, imho, on the confederate ones. It's from a friend:
"This post started as a comment to a post by Rory Tyer about a Confederate statue in Tupelo MS, and which I recommend, and I thought I’d go ahead and post my comment here as well.
I want to start by saying something about myself.
I am, many times over, a son of the Confederacy. My great grandfather Captain Robert Glover Lanham from the Edgefield district of SC for example was a part of Longstreet's division that got sent south by Lee to shore up the situation at Chattanoogo, and after that debacle returned to Pennsylvania, fought with Lee at Gettysburg, and was with Lee through all the horrific battles after Gettysburg even unto Appomattox.
I have always had a tendency to identify myself as a South Carolinian first and an American second. I am a southern boy and for reasons I don't fully understand am proud of it.
I say this to underline the fact that I have no native or instinctive animus towards the south or towards the Confederacy.
I like civil war movies, and when I watch them I tend to identify with the Confederate side and grieve its defeat. If only WE could have rolled the Union flank at Little Round Top...if only....if only...
My home town was burned to the ground as part of Sherman's scorched earth policy. The fire that overtook Columbia was horrific, and I still feel some anger towards those who encouraged it after it started, though how it got started is up for some debate.
And perhaps I should add that we here in SC were the first to secede; the secession documents were signed right here in Columbia. Yep, we started the war.
The point of all that is to say, again, that I feel no instinctive animus towards the south or the Confederacy.
Having said that, I give thanks to God that the Confederacy was defeated. As was manifestly clear in the long and torturous decades leading up to secession, and as is unambiguously clear in all the documents related to secession, my state and my region were built upon the great and most deeply profound and dark evil of chattel slavery. It was brought to SC from Barbados, and it thrived here. The wealth of rice, indigo, and later cotton - crops that made those who could afford to be rich rich, was built upon the back of African slaves. There is no sugar coating this darkness.
The southern cause was an evil cause. I know that thousands upon thousands of southern families lost loved ones, many if not most of whom were conscripted. Not all who fought wanted to and most who fought did not own slaves. Their story is worth telling in a non judgmental way.
But upon the leaders of “the cause" there must finally at last now be a strict judgment. We must not honor men who fought to preserve a way of life that was fundamentally evil. We must not honor statues of these men whose presence adorns our state and county and city parks all over the south.
In my opinion it is time to stand - finally and decisively - with the victims of the Confederacy, the millions of African and Native American men and women who were bought and sold like cattle; whose families were split up at will; who were denied fundamental human rights. How can we acquiesce to honoring men whose purpose in breaking their solemn bond with the other states of the federal union was to preserve a way of life that was deeply and fundamentally evil, the long dark tentacles of which reach right into our present day?
The statues are profoundly offensive to men and women who are now in this day and time our neighbors and fellow citizens, and who are our fellow human beings made in the image of God.
It's time to move on. We lost the war. We lost a way of life. Our cause was, praise God, defeated. I do not wish to hide or deny our history. I do wish to write the next chapter of our story. This chapter needs to be about honoring our African American neighbors more than our Confederate forebears. This chapter needs to include closing the book on our lingering identification with the Confederacy as exemplified in the many statues honoring its leaders and the ones who fought for its cause.
It's time to take down the statues.
And as the scripture says in the book of Hebrews chapter 3, citing Psalm 95:
"Today, if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion."
sturg33
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If people come on my property and threaten my family I'll be shooting.
