More proof servers are scumbags
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Gary82
Called Up to the Major Leagues
gilesfan has a history of hating on servers.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Yet you call servers scumbags....
Well, I should be giving them nothing for takeout.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Fine, whatever — I usually don't tip much, if anything, for takeout, but I rarely order takeout and usually, when I'm eating takeout, it's prêt-à-manger-type stuff that requires almost no effort to prepare specifically for me (think a slice of pizza, for instance).
However, I want a real answer regarding this bartender issue. Would you really tip 5% to someone who spends 3–5 minutes strenuously and delicately preparing a complicated cocktail?
No, to be honest if it was that type of cocktail (which I do not drink) and it actually takes some skills to make then yes, more than that. Probably 15%
Wait, wait, so if it's a hot brunette who is nice, no tip?
no
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
If they aren't serving them from draft, then yeah.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
They're also being pretty wasteful if they're spending time and resources to bottle their own beer just to serve it to patrons on-site in their own brewpub.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Correct. Plus I don't know many pure brewpubs that have the funds to run a bottling line when kegging beer is much faster and cheaper.
Tipping on togo orders is kind of a grey area for me. It depends on the place where you are getting it from. There are some places where the server/bartender don't do anything but take the payment and hand the food over. I worked at a restaurant where there is someone there specifically to handle to go orders and they do a lot of the packing and everything that goes into that. However, they get paid a normal hourly wage. No tip on a regular order for a situation like that is okay, but would be nice. A really large order a small tip is suggested because of the time and effort it take to put together. I currently work at a place where usually the extremely busy bartender (or server) has to get their own orders ready. To-go orders are an extreme pain in the ass. I hate them. We do more work getting the food for a to-go together than orders in house. A 20% tip is not expected but just a show that you understand that I did more than just handing a bag to you would be appreciated. I have noticed that the people that do tip well on to-gos where I work are the ones that get there before the order is ready and watch us as we try to get there order together and see what we have to do to get it ready.
Gilesfan, I really enjoy you referring to me and my friends as scambags because of the job we do. I wish you would have to work a week as a server to see that the job is not nearly as easy as you think it is and there are many people who don't have the stomach to handle the job. I am lucky to work at a tavern in a very well to do area (many of the Braves are regulars there as well as other athletes and celebrities). Some of the well to do have become friends and have more than compensated me for my service. However, there are also those (like yourself seemingly) who think they are better than me and my co-workers and treat us like utter ****. Hell, just last night I had a big guy whisper in my ear and threaten to beat the **** out of me (I'm tiny, all of 5') if I didn't seat him before the 10 parties I already had on the list. And then had a guy continue to be disrespectful and demand that I strip on dance on the table for him and practically verbally sexually harrass me every time I walked by. And I was the manager on duty last night. Both treated the servers much worse. We asked the first guy to leave. That was just MY story for yesterday, there were plenty others. I don't think there is anything wrong with expecting to make more than minimum wage to serve about 20 groups of rude, demanding, mean, sometimes hurtful and just disrespectful people a night. This job can emotionally beat you down and it takes thick skin to handle it and sometimes that's not even enough. People don't deserve to be treated like they are less than anyone.
Gilesfan, I really enjoy you referring to me and my friends as scambags because of the job we do. I wish you would have to work a week as a server to see that the job is not nearly as easy as you think it is and there are many people who don't have the stomach to handle the job. I am lucky to work at a tavern in a very well to do area (many of the Braves are regulars there as well as other athletes and celebrities). Some of the well to do have become friends and have more than compensated me for my service. However, there are also those (like yourself seemingly) who think they are better than me and my co-workers and treat us like utter ****. Hell, just last night I had a big guy whisper in my ear and threaten to beat the **** out of me (I'm tiny, all of 5') if I didn't seat him before the 10 parties I already had on the list. And then had a guy continue to be disrespectful and demand that I strip on dance on the table for him and practically verbally sexually harrass me every time I walked by. And I was the manager on duty last night. Both treated the servers much worse. We asked the first guy to leave. That was just MY story for yesterday, there were plenty others. I don't think there is anything wrong with expecting to make more than minimum wage to serve about 20 groups of rude, demanding, mean, sometimes hurtful and just disrespectful people a night. This job can emotionally beat you down and it takes thick skin to handle it and sometimes that's not even enough. People don't deserve to be treated like they are less than anyone.
You can get other beers from the brewpubs, not just their own brand.
I can't decide if you are comparing me to those guys or not. I am not disrespectful at all and I do not ask anything of servers that isn't in their job duty. I don't cry if there is a wait, I either wait or go elsewhere.
I don't understand paying someone 20% on top of the already inflated cost of the product just to twist a cap or pour a beer. If there is a really good server that is on top of things and adds something of value, I have no issue putting a 10-15% tip on. But, for me to walk up to a bar and for the guy to reach in an ice chest, grab a beer, and twist the cap; there is no chance in hell I"m adding 20% to that.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Everyone I know would call me an over-tipper, but when it comes to a bar, I'm not tipping $1 per beer. For the most part all I get are drafts or bottles depending on what's offered, and I agree with giles as far as that goes. I'm not tipping you over 20% to twist a cap off and hand it to me.
But when I'm out at a restaurant, I usually go 20-25%. And I'm a college student working part-time with limited funds. If you can't tip 18% for good service then don't go out.
But when I'm out at a restaurant, I usually go 20-25%. And I'm a college student working part-time with limited funds. If you can't tip 18% for good service then don't go out.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Again go to better bars or order better beers. I so infrequently order a bottle of beer when I'm out. Last time I did was because a big bottle of Lagunitas 14 was on sale (cheaper than liquor store prices) time before that it was some ****hole in AC and I knew it.
Upgrade your beergame and maybe you'll respect bartenders who do their job right
Who the **** are you to tell me where I should and shouldn't go? And if said bartender doesn't want business, they can close the place down.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
You can go where you want. And I wouldn't tip a bartender a buck for opening a beer. I do tip a buck for the guys who take their time to ensure clean tap lines and beer clean glasses and make quality pours.