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zitothebrave said:
Mad Max was badass.

Disagree on your assessment of Hardy, I think he was flat out amazing in it. If there as a film weakness it was that it was driven by 2 characters and the remaining characters were heavily involved but not really. I mean they introduced a slew of characters, but none of them had huge parts enough to know their names solidly. Charlize Theron was badass in it though. Definitely stole the show. But Tom Hardy was great. The overall change in his character, from the "feral" angry drifter to the leader of the pack who finally conquers his demons.
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For me, he was overshadowed in nearly every scene. My eyes rarely felt drawn to him when he was on screen. The opening was the best part of his role.
 
Dalyn said:
Mad Max kicked serious ass. Only thing that could've made it better, in my opinion, was if Gibson had returned as Mad Max (of course, then it would've never got off the ground, most likely). Hardy was okay (I usually love his roles), but was the only thing in the film that even resembled a flaw/weakness.
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It's possible that Mel could return to the series.

Mad Max could be a legacy character with many different people taking the persona like Batman. It's possible in Miller's universe that Hardy's Max as a young kid met Mel's Max. Mel's Max probably saved him and took him under his wing and when he died Hardy's Max took on his name and persona as tribute to his mentor. Perhaps in a sequel we can see a flashback of Hardy's Max since they kept using his PTSD of his daughter throughout this movie.

I don't think Max was really that weak at all TBH. Miller definitely centered the story around Furiosa's struggle more, but Max was just as important as her character.

Someone on blu-ray.com forum wrote a fantastic point in the Mad Max thread.

Further, Immortan Joe wants a healthy son to carry on his legacy. Thereby passing Furiosa as a worthy successor to his kingdom.

The ones who survived in the wasteland were women and they were part of the clan Furiosa came from. Which further proves her resilience to any obstacles in her way.

But Furiosa can't see her destiny because of her blind allegiance to protecting the wives, finding the green place, and leaving Immortan Joe behind.

It is not until Max comes into the picture and shows here that the green place was hers all along. She just needed to take it, she had the power to do so, the strength, the courage. Max was her catalyst to fight back and take her rightful place.

Conversely... Furiosa complements Max as we meet Max at the end of his world. His life is gone, he is going to end up dead as a blood bag, and the only thing he knows is to just get away. Furiosa gives him a reason to fight not for survival or to just make it to the next contention point. By realizing he needs to do what he did in the original film: be a protector, be a the man he was supposed to be, and prevent anyone else from experiencing his heartbreak... Max is given new purpose in life.
 
Dalyn said:
For me, he was overshadowed in nearly every scene. My eyes rarely felt drawn to him when he was on screen. The opening was the best part of his role.
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It was hard to keep your eyes drawn to anything on the screen in this movie, considering the cinematography and stunts were so beautiful that you had to keep looking everywhere on the screen to try and not miss the awesomeness. I mean seriously the overhead shots of the car chases are so beautiful.
 
Watched this movie 3 times in 3 days, just have to say Dalyn I'm going to disagree with you on Hardy as Max. While we know Mel's Max for being charismatic, Hardy's Max was at a rock bottom point in this movie. Scavenging survival at the beginning he's deranged and essentially on autopilot, on his death bed as a blood bank. I think he did a fantastic job just with his facial expressions and body language (especially with the mask, or tied up to the front of the vehicle). I think repeat viewings are in order for you to appreciate the depth of this movie beyond the amazing aesthetics.

I'm sure you could see the religious undertones, the feminist message, etc. amongst many other things as to why this movie is fantastic.
 
Heywood said:
Watched this movie 3 times in 3 days, just have to say Dalyn I'm going to disagree with you on Hardy as Max. While we know Mel's Max for being charismatic, Hardy's Max was at a rock bottom point in this movie. Scavenging survival at the beginning he's deranged and essentially on autopilot, on his death bed as a blood bank. I think he did a fantastic job just with his facial expressions and body language (especially with the mask, or tied up to the front of the vehicle). I think repeat viewings are in order for you to appreciate the depth of this movie beyond the amazing aesthetics.

I'm sure you could see the religious undertones, the feminist message, etc. amongst many other things as to why this movie is fantastic.
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To clarify, my point about Hardy as Max is a very very minor one. I loved the movie. I fully think it deserves its 98% or so RT rating.
 
Krgrecw said:
I actually enjoyed Mad Max. Here's a theory someone posted on reddit about the movie. Kinda makes sense. I'll link to it since it has spoilers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/368fkl/fury_road_theory_who_killed_the_world_four/
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It's more simple than that to me.

Immortal Joe is satire on the military industrial complex and religion in 2015.

He has books, a piano, and his living quarters is artistic. He's a very educated man, especially since he has an irrigation system, milk farm, and greenhouse. Only a few in his inner circle know about this. He's the only one that can open his vault and go in there. He's prevented all of his underlings and warboys from reading boys and being educated. He gives them and the people outside just enough to where they worship him, but they don't try to kill him.

As we saw in the movie, Joe controls the Gas Town and Bullet Farm as well. In the beginning, he gives a big speech to the people about Furiosa and the War Boys to go off and fight to get Gas in Gas Town but it ends up being that they're all colluding together. So Joe creates fake wars to get the approval of the angry mob.

The War Boys' life dream is to go to the afterlife (The Gates of Valhalla). The spray paint is sort of like a high, or a symbol of martyrdom. When the first guy uses it and then proceeds to sacrifice himself, the other warboys say "WITNESS!!". They witnessed an act of their comrade going to the gates of valhalla. That's also why Nux was so mad because he had 3 opportunities. Red Haired girl convinces him that it was all a religious sham.

All of Joe's breeders know Joe is just manipulating the populace. The "Who Killed The World?" thing isn't necessarily who literally is the reason the world came to ****, it's more of "who killed hope for rebuilding civilization?" And it's Immortal Joe as he controls everything from guns, food, water, gas, war, etc.
 
Dalyn said:
To clarify, my point about Hardy as Max is a very very minor one. I loved the movie. I fully think it deserves its 98% or so RT rating.
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Shoudl be 100%. There was one cunt in the UK who decided this movie didn't make any sense and was all Michael Bay explosions.
 
Heywood said:
Shoudl be 100%. There was one cunt in the UK who decided this movie didn't make any sense and was all Michael Bay explosions.
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There's 4 rotten reviews, UK was just the first. San Francisco Chroniclereview was the only one with weight to downplay it. I find it weird that the UK guy rated Furious 7 and John WIck fresh, but not Mad Max which is a far superior film. At least the Chronicle guy hates pretty much all action movies. So his hate is predictable and consistent.
 
Krgrecw said:
I actually enjoyed Mad Max. Here's a theory someone posted on reddit about the movie. Kinda makes sense. I'll link to it since it has spoilers.

http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/368fkl/fury_road_theory_who_killed_the_world_four/
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Mad Max movies are highly symbolic. I believe it was 100% intentional that the focus wasn't on the gas shortage this time around like in the previous Road Warrior film. It really had to do with wasting natural resources which is why water and plants were the 2 biggest focuses. I'm not sure what the director was going for but it was certainly symbolism.
 
zitothebrave said:
There's 4 rotten reviews, UK was just the first. San Francisco Chroniclereview was the only one with weight to downplay it. I find it weird that the UK guy rated Furious 7 and John WIck fresh, but not Mad Max which is a far superior film. At least the Chronicle guy hates pretty much all action movies. So his hate is predictable and consistent.
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He was referencing top critics.
 
Sequel to Mad Max all but confirmed. Studio hasn't said anything but Hardy is signed on for 3 films, they have another film already written, and the movie almost made it's budget already.

I'm also wondering reading poster comments, if we won't see a Mad Max Cinematic Universe like we have with Marvel. Get some Furiosa back story, a story about the falln of the Green lands (Greenzone? I forget what they were called) maybe an Immortan Joe rise. And of course there are tons of other stories yu can tell in this desolate landscape.
 
Mad Max was fantastic. Best action movie since Dredd 3D (seriously, watch that if you haven't).

Hardy was great. He did everything he needed to do for that role. Said a lot without actually delivering much dialogue, if you know what I mean.
 
I've had so many casual movie viewers tell me "Mad Max had too much action" or "The movie was too weird".

Each of them have never seen a Mad Max movie before. And this is unfortunately the CGI generation. None of them appreciate the practical stunts done...
 
holden said:
Mad Max was fantastic. Best action movie since Dredd 3D (seriously, watch that if you haven't).

Hardy was great. He did everything he needed to do for that role. Said a lot without actually delivering much dialogue, if you know what I mean.
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I'm in an argument on another message board who thinks that anyone could have played Max. I had to explain to the guy being quite isn't always easy for an actor. Hardy has shown more than once how great he can be acting with an inhibitor. In Mad Max it was lack of dialogue (for a reason I know) and in TDKR it was a mask that covered his face. His ability to overcome things like that is awesome and really makes me excited for him. Hopefully he won't get typecast though. His last 3 notable roles have been Mad Max, Bane, and the dude in the Warrior. All actionstar friendly movie. While having a modern action star with acting chops would be great, I hope he's not limited because of it.
 
Heywood said:
I've had so many casual movie viewers tell me "Mad Max had too much action" or "The movie was too weird".

Each of them have never seen a Mad Max movie before. And this is unfortunately the CGI generation. None of them appreciate the practical stunts done...
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My girlfriend had never seen and Mad Max films (she was less giddy for it than her Brother and I) and she loved it. She is of course not a casual movie viewer, she went to film school. She couldn't believe that Hardy did his own stunts.
 
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